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GarmanOnline – $7 256MB KVM VPS

Tags: , , Date/Time: January 29, 2011 @ 12:25 pm, by LowEndAdmin

GarmanOnline Patrick from GarmanOnline emailed me about the changes to the services he is providing. Gone would be the dedicated server offer and annual payment options. Instead, we are getting KVM-based VPS. Here is what you can get for $7/month:

  • 256MB memory/512MB swap
  • 16GB storage
  • 160GB/month data transfer on 100Mbps
  • KVM/Virtualizor

To order, you have to either email sales@garmanonline.com or submit a request at support.garmanonline.com, as they are still finalising their new website. Also expect 12-24 hours of setup time. Two other packages are also available:

  • 80MB memory/192MB swap/4GB stoage/40GB monthly data — $3/month
  • 128MB memory/256MB swap/8GB storagfe/80GB monthly data — $5/month

Chicago based servers. Now, GarmanOnline did have quite a few “incidents” before (see this and this on LowEndTalk). I wasn’t directly involved nor do I have any GarmanOnline service but I hope most issues have been resolved. However no doubt these might have already created a dent on their reputation. Anyway. I just want to make sure people know what they are getting into.

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69 Comments

  1. ZTEC:

    I love KVM, but memory is just a little too low.

    January 29, 2011 @ 1:01 pm | Reply
    • @ALL – The two links are the same incident, which is nothing I’m going to hide. Very unfortunate but have been doing and have done everything possible to make it right. All clients who had VPS on down servers are going to be moved over to the new platform, dedicated servers have had the option to keep servers with the provider, and long term payments are receiving refunds.

      @ZTEC – Well you can only get so much for <$7/mo … other options are available just shoot an email if interested.

      January 29, 2011 @ 1:50 pm | Reply
      • rm:

        I can get how much for $7/mo?
        Just two posts down before this one: http://www.lowendbox.com/blog/hostmist-7-512mb-xen-vps-in-germany/
        And from a provider who doesn’t try to recruit new clients having not even sorted out the website properly or solved all the issues with old ones.
        And it’s real-thing-Xen, not the KVM oddity…

        January 29, 2011 @ 4:49 pm | Reply
        • I’m sorry you feel that way – but just an FYI KVM is not an “oddity” and is actually REPLACING Xen. SingleHop’s Cascade servers are built on KVM, but I’m sure they are just and “oddity” too..

          http://www.redhat.com/about/news/prarchive/2008/virtualization.html

          All businesses opperate with issues whether they be large or small. We have never stopped working towards resolving these, but we were not actively marketing or working towards bringing in new clients with the size of the mess we were dealing with. Since this is finally nearing an end it’s perfectly fine for us to move on. No one is forcing you to order from us.

          As for the links you posted – go for it and buy those VPS. Keep in mind there are also plans like 128MB for $7/mo… on OpenVZ even. Price is not just based on RAM — there are other factors involved.

          January 29, 2011 @ 7:08 pm | Reply
        • Spirit:

          Who cares about other companies. Every company have own system, own pricing, etc, etc… Why don’t you go to WHT and open lets say some wiredtree offer thread and quote them futurehosting pricing model? It would be completely same as you doing here and completely same irrelevant.

          imho. such irrelevant spamming with other companies offers at LEB going on moments too far. Not only here, but in more and more threads. I don’t mind some comparisation here and there, but such insisting in pointless deal breaking just because compnaies dont c/p pricing model of their competition have no use. It’s ordinary spam.
          Each company shoul have own pricing model (which is actually good – do you need me to explain why?). Take it or leave it. No need to play pointless spam deal breaker role.

          January 29, 2011 @ 10:04 pm | Reply
        • rm:

          @Spirit
          it was implied that for $7 you can not obtain more than offered here, hence the links.

          January 29, 2011 @ 10:11 pm | Reply
        • @Spirit — You’re about as awesome as this video.

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnzFRV1LwIo

          (to me that’s a good thing)

          January 29, 2011 @ 10:11 pm | Reply
        • circus:

          @rm, I think you should compare it with another kvm offers :)

          January 29, 2011 @ 10:48 pm | Reply
        • Spirit:

          @rm – yes, but when companies start to share (or even make agreement about) SAME pricing model this can be 5$.. or 50$… and only one who’s in disadvantage here is end customer. Beside that there’s more than just those numeric values from posted offer. As example (only one!) I am not GarmanOnline customer but if I would be… I would atleast know with whom I deal instead annonymous XY guys which represent so many other vps companies here and when we can’t be ever sure if this and that.. person really exist or it will vanish in dust with our money in month or two. I hope that you understand what I mean. So yes.. as you asked “I can get how much for $7/mo?” – are those few numeric values really everythinng what ordinary LEB vps “taster” see before buy vps? How pitty…

          @patrick, I hope that you don’t compare me with gorilla in this video. I am big, but not THAT big :-)

          January 29, 2011 @ 10:56 pm | Reply
        • @Spirit – Not calling you BIG just awesome :)

          Thats why I threw in the it’s a good thing ha because I didn’t want you to take offense me saying you’re like a gorilla

          January 30, 2011 @ 12:15 am | Reply
  2. Rob:

    Nothing personal against Patrick, who I’m sure is a great guy, but … I’m confused, at a time when the admin has been worried about the number of offers getting posted here, and finding this site taking up more time than he is happy with, how is it that posts are still being made about a company which has had such substantial issues very recently?

    January 29, 2011 @ 2:19 pm | Reply
    • If you are referring to this post, then

      1). GarmanOnline’s previous offer was posted on 30 Nov — well over 30 days ago.
      2). This does not require annual payment.

      I certainly don’t want to waste time posting deals from the same provider week after week.

      January 30, 2011 @ 1:08 pm | Reply
      • @Rob – These issues are almost all resolved, we’ve actively worked to make everything right as best as possible, changed almost every piece of the business to ensure it won’t happen again.

        Are you saying we shouldn’t be aloud to be posted anymore or something? :(

        January 30, 2011 @ 6:34 pm | Reply
  3. So sad My VPS from garmanOnline down until now almost 1 moonth, now GarmanOnline site look different, i can’t accees support area area, but Garman still sendme Invoice that My VPS Down ? What its mean ?? Must i pay VPS that down ? There no confirmation , no support access…

    January 29, 2011 @ 3:02 pm | Reply
    • As has been previously sent out (at least twice in the past two days alone) — our support center has moved to support.garmanonline.com. The link is even in the post you are commenting on. You could even just reply to the email’s you are receiving or the invoice you received and a ticket would have been created.

      Disregard the invoice you received, it was an automatically generated one. – as soon as your service is back online you will not have to pay anything for at least one month.

      January 29, 2011 @ 3:05 pm | Reply
  4. hope at now there is not much trouble as before

    January 29, 2011 @ 4:57 pm | Reply
    • Nope — as was stated in the post we are making some major changes to ensure we avoid this. Two of the biggest ones…

      – Not pushing dedicated servers
      – No long term payments

      January 29, 2011 @ 7:16 pm | Reply
      • Stephen:

        Patrick, please respond to emails.

        January 29, 2011 @ 8:30 pm | Reply
        • Stephen:

          Just so everyone knows, I was one of the people who paid for a whole year of service with Patrick. Though it was unfortunate the way things went down, Patrick ensured myself and others that he would be providing a refund.

          I only got to use the server for about a week, so Patrick decided that he would give me a full refund, and that he would do that as soon as possible. While it did take a while, I am happy to report that the refund has gone through, and paypal has sent the money to my credit card.

          What I have learned through this experience, and many emails going back and forth between myself and Patrick, is that he is an honest guy who is trying to make a name for himself.

          I am personally convinced he is a good man since he has done the right thing with me, and through talking to him I would entrust him with your services simply because he will not try to swindle you like some other companies.

          Just give him another chance, and I’m sure you’ll be pleasantly surprised.

          January 29, 2011 @ 8:46 pm | Reply
  5. I’m pretty unfamiliar with KVM other than to know it is another type of visualization. For some reason I seem to believe it does nto allow for cpu core sharing, is that true? What are the major points of the platform?

    January 29, 2011 @ 10:09 pm | Reply
  6. NordicVPS.com:

    We are also looking into KVM since Redhat will stop supporting XEN in future releases, there are also other new coming technology from IBM that in future may replace OpenVZ for container based hosting.

    I am sure we will see more KVM based VPS offers in near future :)

    January 30, 2011 @ 2:33 am | Reply
  7. Adam:

    Future sure shows KVM replacing XEN; Redhat Drops XEN from RHEL .. Old news but related : http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9175883/Red_Hat_drops_Xen_from_RHEL

    January 30, 2011 @ 2:37 am | Reply
  8. @LEA – In your blog header under “Virtualization/OS” you should add in the “KVM” tag… :)

    Just sayin’

    January 30, 2011 @ 4:42 am | Reply
    • I’ll do that if I am getting KVM offers every other week, and I am hoping to see that in 2011 :)

      January 30, 2011 @ 1:11 pm | Reply
      • I honestly don’t expect to see very many. While KVM is the future I think too many people are stuck up on Xen and there are always going to be a LOT of OpenVZ

        January 30, 2011 @ 6:31 pm | Reply
  9. Hi Patrick,

    Good to see you back again. The hard work preparing things up especially KVM pays, ain’t it?

    Wishing you all the best with the new offer, Bro.

    January 30, 2011 @ 9:24 am | Reply
    • Thanks! It’s be a LOT of work to get things ready for this but it will be worth it.

      January 30, 2011 @ 9:42 pm | Reply
  10. I only used KVM hosting once — 2 years ago, $20/month from a currently defunct provider, and it is good. Similar to VMWare I guess, and certainly does not have the same limitation as Xen paravirtualization. I do hope to see it gaining momentum soon, and hopefully commercial panel providers will release something to capture the market.

    January 30, 2011 @ 1:13 pm | Reply
    • SwordfishBE:

      I have a vps with hetzner, they use KVM. Nothing wrong I can say about KVM, performance is the same as a XEN-HVM vps, maybe even slightly better (ram allocation is better). But this is offtopic, so please go through discussing GarmanOnline.

      January 30, 2011 @ 2:18 pm | Reply
  11. tommy:

    let’s hope he dont forget to pay his bill :) lol

    January 30, 2011 @ 1:48 pm | Reply
  12. cps a.k.a mon5t3 r@ LET:

    @patrick : nice to see you back on your business.. :) i’m really interesting about KVM. my question is does KVM ready for production box?

    the main different KVM vs Xen HVM is KVM consist of loadable kernel CMIIW. we can say KVM is around the center of Xen PV and Xen HVM. more powerful but with low memory footprint.. maybe i should try this one later.. :)

    January 30, 2011 @ 3:27 pm | Reply
  13. Adam:

    What OS are supported ?

    January 31, 2011 @ 9:48 am | Reply
    • As this is KVM – we’re pretty open :)

      *nix, *bsd, *dows… ?? windows felt left out of the star club…

      Heck, if you’ve got your own Windows (legal) license I’ll get some Windows 7/Server ISO’s put up there for use. Right now we won’t be licensing any MS stuff ourselves but won’t stop you from running it.

      As long as it is all LEGAL…

      January 31, 2011 @ 11:06 am | Reply
  14. Kidding, but where’s the my previous VPS? I paid the last month but only get less than 3 working days. I submitted two tickets but no one replied after a month.

    January 31, 2011 @ 1:08 pm | Reply
    • Hello – I’m sorry for the issues you’ve had. We’re moving all VPS that were lost onto new servers ASAP. As soon as you are online again we will send you your new VPS info.

      I am sorry for any issues this has caused you. For support please go to support.garmanonline.com

      January 31, 2011 @ 5:54 pm | Reply
  15. Pascal:

    Great to see a KVM offer! Hope more will follow in Europe too.

    January 31, 2011 @ 1:45 pm | Reply
  16. innya:

    I haven’t gotten any refund back from Patrick yet. My profile is no longer exist on his newly created client support system (Database should have moved or migrated).
    I haven’t done any charged back because he is still sorting out on his mass.

    January 31, 2011 @ 7:08 pm | Reply
    • All accounts have been migrated over, but email via Google Apps apparently has now been CAPPED to 60 emails per hour… which obviously doesn’t work very well when sending mass emails.

      Please email support@garmanonline.com with any issues you have.

      January 31, 2011 @ 7:17 pm | Reply
  17. Artie:

    Please STAY AWAY from GarmanOffline, this kid won’t refund any money and he’ll keep on saying: -Some day you’ll have your VPS up-
    Like innya, I haven’t gotten any refund back for a whole year of service yet and the client support system is just for new unwary people.

    February 7, 2011 @ 5:29 pm | Reply
    • If you have any problems then open a support ticket or send an email. HostBill is a mess once you get multiple servers and a lot of VPS so it is hard to keep track of them all which is why a custom system is being developed.

      I’m sorry your VPS was missed but as soon as I have the information you’ll be back online.

      And the new support system is because HostBill continually fails and is simply a mess AND being hosted by a third party is something that we cannot be accused of tampering with logs or anything of that sort. Supposed to give more peace of mind … not “for new unwary people”

      February 7, 2011 @ 10:43 pm | Reply
  18. I sure do hope that everything gets sorted out, because right now everything seems to be a mess.

    February 9, 2011 @ 12:46 pm | Reply
  19. Purchased the smallest offering and so far I’m impressed with the quality of service. Moved my blog to it today – Hello KVM!.

    February 9, 2011 @ 2:21 pm | Reply
    • Glad you’re happy with the service! :)

      Not sure what all will run smoothly on 80MB, but maybe someday if you want a test-bed playground you can play with some of the custom ISO’s available.

      To start with there are plenty of Turnkey Linux appliances ready to go, along with ArchLinux, soon Debian 6 and others. This is on top of the standard CentOS, Debian (5.5), Ubuntu, and Suse… if anyone has any requests for Custom ISO under normal circumstances no reason why we can’t add it. Soon there will be Windows 7/Server ISO’s available for those with their own licenses.

      February 9, 2011 @ 2:28 pm | Reply
      • circus:

        Any *BSD?

        February 9, 2011 @ 3:39 pm | Reply
        • Not immediately but working on a few *BSD ISO’s… any requests for specific ones?

          February 9, 2011 @ 7:03 pm | Reply
        • circus:

          @Patrick, I could use OpenBSD to play around ^_^

          February 9, 2011 @ 10:10 pm | Reply
        • I’ll get an OpenBSD ISO added tonight :)

          VPS will be built with a standard VPS image, but after that you can boot into an ISO and use the built in VNC viewer to setup the server.

          I’ve got to be honest, this VNC viewer that is built into the VPS panel is pretty awesome.

          February 9, 2011 @ 10:20 pm | Reply
      • Been porting my webcam site to Bash to run on my lowend GarmanOnline VPS… almost done :)

        Need testers!

        Current Apache/PHP/MySQL site: http://baycam.ca/

        New site powered by Bash, thttpd and GarmanOnline: http://dev.baycam.ca/

        Leave a comment there if you like :)

        March 2, 2011 @ 9:31 pm | Reply
        • The webcam http://dev.baycam.ca/ loads slower than the current http://baycam.ca/.

          Very impressive!

          March 3, 2011 @ 2:26 am | Reply
        • Is pretty good Doug :D

          March 3, 2011 @ 2:48 am | Reply
        • @vRozenSch00n

          Do you mean the camera image loads slower, or the page overall is slower? If the camera image, then it’s just chance — in one instance you may have been pulling a new image over my DSL, while in the other you may have gotten an image cached on the webserver for a few minutes.

          March 3, 2011 @ 2:48 am | Reply
        • The page at http://dev.baycam.ca/ loads faster than http://baycam.ca/.
          The camera at http://baycam.ca/ loads faster than http://dev.baycam.ca/.

          After I turned on the Opera Booster, both sites loads at same speed. So I guess it is my ISP.

          Here’s the traceroute result from Jakarta:

          C:\>tracert dev.baycam.ca
          
          Tracing route to dev.baycam.ca [173.236.111.213]
          over a maximum of 30 hops:
            1     *        *        *     Request timed out.
            2  2756 ms   984 ms   393 ms  10.70.3.6
            3  1490 ms  2483 ms  2300 ms  10.13.63.209
            4   384 ms   779 ms  1501 ms  10.12.9.102
            5  1155 ms  2657 ms     *     10.12.2.34
            6   791 ms   284 ms   374 ms  10.13.127.121
            7  4246 ms  3469 ms     *     10.13.127.186
            8     *     3046 ms  2170 ms  10.1.0.107
            9  3333 ms  4045 ms  3622 ms  223.255.224.35
           10   682 ms  1397 ms  1601 ms  180.214.232.242
           11  2759 ms  2586 ms   311 ms  AES-Static-049.1.22.125.airtel.in [125.22.1.49]
           12     *        *        *     Request timed out.
           13  3296 ms  2201 ms     *     203.208.174.17
           14  2422 ms     *     2113 ms  POS3-6.sngtp-ar1.ix.singtel.com [203.208.172.9]
           15   780 ms   498 ms   442 ms  so-3-0-0-0.laxow-cr1.ix.singtel.com [203.208.149.226]
           16   520 ms   479 ms   520 ms  xe-0-0-0-0.laxow-dr3.ix.singtel.com [203.208.149.106]
           17  1532 ms   480 ms   599 ms  203.208.186.82
           18   401 ms   397 ms   418 ms  ae0-50g.cr1.lax1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.127.137]
           19   739 ms   994 ms  1960 ms  xe-4-0-0.cr2.ord1.us.nlayer.net [69.22.142.255]
           20   815 ms  2116 ms  4002 ms  ae2-20g.ar1.ord6.us.nlayer.net [69.31.110.254]
           21   438 ms   478 ms   438 ms  as32475.xe-2-0-4.ar1.ord6.us.nlayer.net [69.31.110.202]
           22  1235 ms  2039 ms  1301 ms  asw-dz124.ord03.singlehop.net [173.236.2.46]
           23   874 ms  1583 ms  2117 ms  zeus.garmanonline.com [173.236.111.213]
          Trace complete.
          
          C:\>tracert baycam.ca
          Tracing route to baycam.ca [97.107.133.145]
          over a maximum of 30 hops:
            1     *        *        *     Request timed out.
            2  2733 ms  1899 ms  2560 ms  10.70.3.6
            3   240 ms   197 ms   221 ms  10.13.63.149
            4   274 ms   239 ms   239 ms  10.12.9.105
            5  1475 ms   821 ms   761 ms  10.12.9.102
            6   437 ms   599 ms   881 ms  10.13.127.185
            7   202 ms   258 ms   220 ms  10.13.127.122
            8  2981 ms     *      755 ms  10.1.0.107
            9   396 ms   239 ms   216 ms  223.255.224.35
           10   474 ms   821 ms  1079 ms  180.214.232.242
           11  1540 ms   840 ms   257 ms  IP-160-129.nap.net.id [202.59.160.129]
           12  1116 ms     *        *     ge-3-0.Core01.JKT.NAPInfo.net [202.59.160.241]
           13   516 ms   521 ms   197 ms  Vlan559.icore1.SVW-Singapore.as6453.net [116.0.71.101]
           14   231 ms   198 ms   220 ms  if-0-1712.tcore2.SVW-Singapore.as6453.net [180.87.15.21]
           15   477 ms   700 ms   959 ms  if-7-2.tcore2.LVW-LosAngeles.as6453.net [180.87.15.26]
           16  1077 ms   395 ms   401 ms  xe-8-2-0.lax20.ip4.tinet.net [77.67.68.133]
           17  1294 ms   539 ms     *     xe-5-3-0.nyc20.ip4.tinet.net [89.149.184.230]
           18   574 ms   502 ms   497 ms  netaccess-gw.ip4.tinet.net [213.200.73.122]
           19   755 ms  1295 ms  2122 ms  0.e1-4.tbr2.mmu.nac.net [209.123.10.77]
           20   501 ms   718 ms     *     vlan805.esd1.mmu.nac.net [209.123.10.34]
           21   502 ms   517 ms   457 ms  207.99.53.42
           22     *     1995 ms  1979 ms  vps10.labradordata.ca [97.107.133.145]
          Trace complete.
          
          March 3, 2011 @ 3:23 am | Reply
        • Thanks vRozenSch00n for that.

          The new site went live this morning at http://baycam.ca

          Now to see how the little 80MB GarmanOnline VPS hold up serving that CGI :)

          March 5, 2011 @ 1:31 pm | Reply
    • Thanks Patrick for the suggestions. Actually everything is running quite smoothly in 11-12 MB RAM on Debian 5 32-bit :)

      February 9, 2011 @ 2:32 pm | Reply
  20. homy:

    What is your node specs? How about IPv6?

    February 14, 2011 @ 7:09 am | Reply
    • No IPv6 right now while DC does not support it yet, no ETA as of yet. Feel free to tunnel your own though with Hurricane Electric or others.

      Nodes right now are going up with Core i3’s & 8GB RAM, less RAM = less clients per server = higher performance from shared CPU/Disks.

      February 14, 2011 @ 12:56 pm | Reply
  21. Yomero:

    How can I get the 80 MB slice? Because the site says you can get one, but in the order form doesn’t exist :P

    March 5, 2011 @ 3:46 pm | Reply

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