Mark from Jolly Works Hosting emailed me their new offer that has also been posted on WHT. “Tiny One” is how this hosting plan is called. $13/Year and here is the signup link.
- 128MB guaranteed/256MB burstable memory
- 15GB storage
- 500GB/month data transfer on 100Mbps
- OpenVZ/SolusVM
Servers in PhoenixNAP in Phoenix AZ (test IP: 174.138.175.114). Jolly Works Hosting is based in Philippine and was founded in March 2009 — makes them almost 3 years old. Looks like they are trying to aggressively grow their customer base with this yearly plan. Being 3 year old and relatively good track record I do hope it’s not an attempt of pump and dump :)
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can we use it as a private VPN server? just for myself.
They do not support PayPal direct payments, some trouble, you must use 2checkout.
You can use PayPal Funds through 2CheckOut.
http://clientportal.jollyworkshosting.com/clients/knowledgebase/35/How-do-I-pay-using-my-PayPal-funds.html
2checkout can use paypal，he he。。
They are using RAID1, does anyone got DD test result from their VPS? :D I may purchase a new box for dev if the DD test result looks good ;)
Are they a real company?
They don’t appear to be because I see no company or business registration details on their About Us page.
Weird that they do not have paypal. Paypal is quite popular in the philippines. 2checkout not so much.
Good luck to your business bro!
Hi, you may pay through PayPal via 2Checkout secured payment facility. :) More details are listed here: http://clientportal.jollyworkshosting.com/clients/knowledgebase/35/How-do-I-pay-using-my-PayPal-funds.html
Thanks for clarifying this with us!
but not everyone has 2checkout specially in PH
Hi, you do not need to have a 2checkout account. :) You will use the same Paypal account you have. 2CO will just play as a payment processor between You (your Paypal account) and Jolly Works Hosting. You can check the rundown of the process on the link given above. If you need further assistance, just shoot us a ticket here: https://clientportal.jollyworkshosting.com/clients/submitticket.php?step=2&deptid=2
cpanel for free? How come? Is this a scam?
Nowhere says cpanel for free o_O
Linux OpenVZ VPS – Tiny One
» Operating System: CentOS 5.4 with cPanel Installed
[Edit Configuration] [Remove] $13.00 USD
“Installed” doesn’t mean that is it working :)
cPanel/WHM License + Softaculous – $23.00 USD Monthly
Please choose “CentOS 5.4 w/ cPanel installed” OS when ordering
Thats cPanel pre installed on centos but you would need your own cPanel license to activate it.. I don’t think cPanel would run on 128mb of ram anyways, and this offer seems to have been sold out already!!
I signed up the VPS, paid, and get my VPS right away. I must say, very impressive speed and network..Thanks
cpanel wont run on 128MB ram
http://cpanel.com/products/cpanelwhm/system-requirements.html
It will run on it, just use plain cpanel dns-only :)
Hi guys,
We’ve sold 25 initial slots of our Tiny VPS offer within the 24-hour period. Thanks LEB for featuring us!
We’re trying to accommodate all orders as much as possible, but we hope you understand that we must maintain the number of customers per node as we do not want to be oversold. :) If you wish to reserve a slot, you may contact us at https://clientportal.jollyworkshosting.com/clients/submitticket.php?step=2&deptid=2
Thank you!
Some DNS configuration issues (different nameservers etc) as both nameservers on the same box. Simple fixes guys that make your company look a lot more professional.
It seems they are TurnkeyInternet.net reseller ;)
If they are with Turnkeyinternet.. better check that your IP is clean when you receive your VPS cause in their TOS they can charge you a fee if their IP is on a blacklist. Had a reseller with Turnkeyinternet and of the 6 IP’s I purchased 4 were already on a blacklist!! so it’s always safe to check.
Our main website is hosted at Turnkey Internet, that’s in New York. But as have mentioned in the post, this VPS offering is located at Phoenix NAP Data Center. :)
Still your TOS for “IP Blacklisting Removal Fees” is word for word identical to that of Turnkeyinternet..
What, expecting a LEB provider to have properly set up DNS? Silly Hughesey. :)
I come from the Philippines. If they can provide either DTI or SEC number, I can validate if they are a valid company.
BTW, they are from Dagupan. It is a far city in the north of Philippines. Lots of good IT engineers there… not to mention the very cheap labor up there compared to the capital Metro Manila.
I would be very cautious signing up because they haven’t verified that they are a company.
We are a registered business with DTI, Philippines. :) You may verify it by searching “Jolly Works Web Hosting Philippines” at https://www.bnrs.dti.gov.ph/web/guest/search
DTI registration only? That means you are either a sole proprietorship company or a scam.
Can you provide your business registration details from dagupan city government? Better, can you provide your BIR number?
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WARNING! Jolly Work Hosting SCAMMER!
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they will force you to upgrade your account from 128mb to 1gig so that he may earn more money! or else he will shutdown your account!
CHECK THIS LINK! http://www.symbianize.com/showthread.php?t=393623
Jolly Works and his dummy accounts are BAN here in #1 website in the Philippine because of SCAMMING!
Jolly pretends that he has so many client! Filipino people are aware of that!
I’m warning you guys!
Rainzday
The link you gave is not in English? :(
LOL what a question…
google is your friend
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.symbianize.com%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D393623
LOL. Filipino translation sucks. Your last resort is to use “Ctrl+F”. Wait, I can’t find anything about Jollyworks?
thank you for the notification. I was going to buy xD
Can anyone give a summary of that thread? I’d like to know what’s going on.
Well, I don’t know that language, but… you can always use a translator.
And, I can’t find nothing related to this company o_O
Tagalog? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tagalog_language
Yes, according to google translate u_u
All you need to know about the pinoy language is that ‘wew’ is bad.
Francisco
Why bad? “wew” in my country (ID) mean “wow”, “ouch!”, something like that.
IMHO, Google translator is bad on the Filipino/Tagalog language. :)
The thread says it all. :) It doesn’t have anything to say about Jolly Works Hosting. We just noticed that this post kept coming everytime LEB features us, so I guess either they’re trying to compromise our company name in public, or promote their thread in the Internet.
Nonetheless, our customers who have purchased the Tiny VPS package can defend it their selves — just like “MikeJ” above. :)
Since you are only registered with DTI, provide your BIR number and/or your Mayor’s business registration/permit. I am trying to help you validate that you are not a scam. But if you cannot provide these two, I can’t help but call you a scam.
I am Filipino but nowhere in those three pages did I read about jolly works. Is jolly works the same as skynetwebwatch? Is Mark the same as Roanne?
Jollyworks has good feedbacks in sulit.com.ph- the Philippines’ biggest online classifieds ads the last time I look.
Yeah rofl, he sent me a message asking me to upgrade to 512mb else our hosting would get shut down due to “making a loss of profit”
Stupid scammer.
Hello,
Can you provide a screenshot of your email or ticket please? :)
Yeah I’d like to know if this can be done away with as a confirmed scam as well! Please post
Out of stock. Any new boxes coming in the near future?
Hello Krute, yes, once we have our node setupped within this week, we will open new slots. If you wish to reserve a slot, you may contact us at https://clientportal.jollyworkshosting.com/clients/submitticket.php?step=2&deptid=2
Can someone with this package run this benchmark test and post the results?
wget freevps.us/downloads/bench.sh -O – -o /dev/null|bash
Thanks a lot Thomas, I really appreciate it.
To Everyone,
I am asking Mark of Jolly Works Hosting to provide their bureau of internal revenue (BIR) number and their city business permit/registration.
There are three requirements for you to be a valid business in the Philippines – DTI (sole ownership) or SEC (partnership/corporations) Registration, BIR (tax bureau), City/Mayor Business Permit.
If they can provide this, this will put an end to all claims that their are a scam.
They already said they have DTI registration. But if they cannot provide the other two, they are a scam.
My personal interest on this, my real name is Jolly. So their business name is a little personal to me if they are a scam. hehehe…
At least, they got DTI registration? How a company with DTI registration could be a scam? Please explain me :D Because in my country, only unregistered company could be scam ;)
@BudgetVPS: Well said, buddy. I know someone from the Philippines who operates an online business too. And according to her, most online business (who do not have physical office) are not really DTI nor BIR registered that’s why they can provide reasonable prices.
@Saintluci: I do not really want to think that you’re affiliated with “Rainzday”. I am not with JollyWorks’s side, but I think proving you a DTI registered name is enough to prove that they’re not scam. Additionally, regardless that they are registered or not, LEB Admin post said it already “Jolly Works Hosting is based in Philippine and was founded in March 2009 — makes them almost 3 years old… Being 3 year old and relatively good track record”, You would want to check that again. :)
To everyone: Just a few tips… Use Google. Check for reviews. Read, read, read. We’re living in an Information Age, cope up with it and you’ll not be scammed. :)
To budgetvps, post is long but please for the good of all your visitors, I hope it does not get deleted. I hate Philippine companies scamming other nations. It gives bad feedback about my country. Plus the fact my first name is literally Jolly.
ABOUT PHILIPPINES COMPANIES AND BUSINESS REGISTRATIONS
DTI registration is the simplest form of registration in this country and it is limited to sole proprietorship type of businesses. It is a onetime thing every 5 years and it ONLY authorizes you to USE THE BUSINESS NAME. By itself, it does not allow you to do business transactions. Since it also has a long lifespan of 5 years, it is the leased monitored business document by the Philippine government. Thus, a lot of bogus/scam companies brag about DTI registration when in fact, it is a weak evidence that you are not scamming. Imagine with DTI documents alone, the company can already scam for 5 years before they are found.
Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) on the other hand is used by partnerships and/or corporations. SEC requires you to submit general information sheet (GIS) every year and the GIS requires financial statements, current board of directors, etc. Businesses intending honest to goodness business typically use SEC because it is more credible than DTI. If there is a lawsuit, the most recent information is at hand.
SEC and DTI are the FIRST set of business documents.
SECOND SET OF DOCUMENT is…
…the mayor’s (city/municipality) business permit. This document is a culmination of various government groups’ audit of a business (done yearly) and the business adheres to all national/local laws in order to do business.
THIRD DOCUMENT… the most valid of all Philippines business documents is their bureau of internal revenue (in the USA they call this is the IRS) number/registration. The tax bureau is more strict as it requires monthly/quarterly/yearly submission of financial activities of a company for tax purposes. IMHO, it is the mother of all documents if you want to audit a company (in the Philippines) if it is legit or not.
I run two companies in the Philippines. One is a certified vendor of a large Internet giant (you know who it is) while the other (an IT consulting firm) served/serves companies with the likes of Siemens, British School, Computer Associates and others. Based on the business practices of these two legit Philippine companies, if a foreign company wants to do business with a Philippine company (like me), that company won’t just show SEC (for a corporation) or DTI (sole proprietorship) documents. They should (and are required by Philippine laws) to give the following:
Business registration number (city/municipality that issued it must be provided as well)
BIR Number (for clients to validate financial capacity to do business)
These two documents are typically not published in websites. But if you ask for them (like what I did with Mark of Jolly Hosting), they must present them. Philippine laws require this. These two documents are even required to be posted in CLEAR PUBLIC VIEW at the entrance of the registered business address of the company.
A bogus company in the Philippines will not have both of these (business permit and BIR) because these cost a lot of money to maintain. If a business openly gives it for anyone who asks for it (like how I asked Mark of Jolly Hosting) there is a very good assurance that the company is in the business for the long haul (legit and does not intend to scam) and the Philippine government assures its legitimacy (of course to a certain extent).
Side note, you cannot sue a company in the Philippines by company name alone. You have to provide these documents when suing a company.
Unfortunately for all the visitors of this site, Dagupan (where Jolly Hosting is located) is 4-5 hours by car from Metro Manila (the capital) where I am located. It is a huge task for me to drive up to their office and validate these two documents – business permit and BIR document.
Now my challenge to Mark of Jolly Hosting, please give me your business registration number issued by the City of Dagupan and your BIR number for me to validate to all the visitors of this site if you really are a company in the Philippines legitimized by the Philippine Government to do business. You are required by Philippine laws to present these to me as I am a Filipino citizen and the law allows any Filipino citizen to demand these from you.
If you can’t, I am really sorry but I will have to declare you a scam. So please, for your own good provide the two information I require.
I agree to your point here Saintluci. But I believe you are trying to have a B2B transaction with Jolly Works that business docs are too important for you.
For me, as long as companies have trustful positive reviews I will not hesitate to buy. After all, I buy from E-bay, which I bet half (or more) sellers there are not registered businesses, and buyers like me strongly rely on reviews. Lastly, registered business pay taxes and stuff which make products/service more pricey. Jolly Works offers reasonable prices and you too can take advantage of that.
Don’t get me wrong, I am not opposing you. Just giving you an alternative way to think about this company. ;)
So I think there is a difference between the countries :P And in my country, there is no chance to trace if the phone number is pre-paid or not :(
Here’s a very legal company in Germany – 1and1.com
Business profile: http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=828913
What people are saying you can read here (you can google for more bad reviews of 1and1)
1AND1 class action lawsuit : http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=689759
1and1 Domains mini scam : http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1094121&highlight=1and1
Warning about 1and1 billing practices : http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1118578&highlight=1and1
Saintluci does not believe 1and1 is a scam because it’s a registered business? Your logic is a joke or maybe you are from a competitor.
I forgot to mention… in their about us page:
1. Their address is incomplete. There is no street name.
2. Both of their published telephone numbers are pre-paid telephone numbers.
I don’t want to insinuate anything, but a legit company usually does not do these two things.
Just found this from their KB: http://clientportal.jollyworkshosting.com/clients/knowledgebase/12/How-do-you-offer-such-affordable-web-hosting-services.html
“Jolly Works Hosting is not renting any physical office space”, so I guess the address there is the owner’s address. I can be wrong.
LOL. Mind telling us what’s your basis on accusing they’re using prepaid lines?
I got to tell you this, go look for a registered business and buy from there. Surely, you will get a box 50% more expensive. Good luck!
Stop it kababayan. Online businesses do not need to be registered. It would be good if they are and it would give more confidence to buyers. But if they are not- they are not necessarily scam unless you have any proof.
Anyone who can provide disk IO?
Is there any chance of getting at least 1 day trial? I would like to see the actual performance before I proceed. I am planning to purchase a 3-year contract. I will be using it for personal VPN.
Hi Marvin,
Sure. We will be happy to provide you a free trial for 1 day. Just send us an email so we can reserve you a slot once we have packages available. :)
Hey can you post a benchmark when you receive the service? Thanks.
Guys,
I ordered 6 Tiny VPS from JollyWorks Hosting so far. All I can say is that their service is excellent and their VPS is awesome. Grab your VPS before its out!
Uhh… can you post some benchmark results please?
Thomas has posted the benchmark result to your question above :D Scroll up and you will see it :D
IRC allowed?
Up to you guys if want to deal with them. Don’t tell me I didn’t warn anyone of you. I’ve always believed that the proper and ethical way of doing business is to adhere to the laws of the land where your business is “registered”. As far as I am concerned, there is a huge risk that Jolly Works Hosting is a scam if they cannot provide the documents.
As for the Filipino who commented that “Online businesses do not need to be registered”, please check with your Philippine legal counsel. Online businesses need to register. These companies are breaking the law and they dare promote they are from the Philippines. They are the same companies that destroy the reputation of the Philippines.
mind to explain how come those users above already got their VPS alrdy ?
they’ve already posted the bench result somemore.
stop bitching and start READING.
Fine I will stop bitching as you said. You deal with them but I won’t. As far as I am concerned, I currently consider them a scam as per Philippines laws.
I’ll just bitch about them with the Philippine government. Probably with the BIR revenue district of Dagupan.
It seems your definition of ‘scam’ is all encompassing. What you’re trying to say is that a business is not a scam if it’s fully registered. So let’s take Amway as an example, it’s registered in the US and in many countries including the Philippines. In the end Amway had to close shop because, despite the fact that they are legally recognized in those countries, their business practices dupe people into believing they will make money (in reality most members lost their livelihood), a scam so to speak.
Getting back to Jollyworks, they may not satisfy all legal requirements but if they deliver the services as promised, without tying their customers to legal obligations, then I dont see any scam here.
A scam, as defined, is a fraudulent business scheme, a swindle. The intention of a scammer is to defraud someone of his/her possession. If for example, you pay Jolliworks for 1 month hosting at so-so specs, and you get 1 month hosting for the same specs then would you say you were scammed?
On the other hand, if you host in a fully registered company, pay for hosting that runs below your agreement, you will not say you were scammed because ‘they are registered’? If you follow this line then Amway is not a scammer?
Just asking. Peace man :)
Even registered business can be scams. Get a life.
Been watching/reading all the comments. This is my first VPS experience so I was unsure what I was all getting into and this seemed like the perfect trial run. Ordered my server on the 13th and got it up and running right away, works great for my needs! However, the server went offline about 3PM central time today out of the blue and I haven’t been able to do anything since. I submitted a support ticket right away and it’s been almost 12 hours and I still haven’t heard anything back :(
Hello there,
I cannot see any opened tickets at VPS Support Dept at this moment. Can you confirm to me your Ticket ID so we could take a look? I apologies for any inconvenience this may have caused you.
Ticket ID is 291477. You already replied yesterday stating that it was down because the server was null routed due to a client’s abusive action. Hopefully this doesn’t happen again. Everything has been working good again. Thanks!
Any chance that you can provide non US IP?
Out of stock :(
Still haven’t seen a happy customer. I think they should their own forum. I’ll be watching jwh so I can decide soon.
I just wanted to give a quick review on this service.
I am just using this server for random things here and there, and so far it has been perfect. Good support, no downtime, good server.
I sent them a request for a DNS change, and they took a couple hours for them to respond and do it. I’m not sure how long they would take to respond to an emergency, but a couple hours seems reasonable to me (as long as you’re not running Google on it ;)).
TL;DR:
I definitely recommend this service, perfect for what I need.
For Me The Service is great i m just using it for testing and learning purpose, No downtime Simply Great Service
Personnally i don’t recommend the service, because regularly i have problems accessing my VPS.
It’s not down but very very slow.
When i open a ssh, when typing, sometimes it freezes an i must wait several seconds to see the echo of what i typed.
When i edit a file with vi, saving my changes last several seconds.
I installed an SMTP and IMAP server and a Webmail.
First the conversation between the SMTP and the IMAP server sometimes times out.
Webmail is unusable as i often have 504 Gateway time out.
If you follow the rules “you have what you pay” then i must say JWH is in line with that. I have one VPS with them for last 8 months and total downtime was around 30 min. Aside of that 30 min of DT my VPS was always ok and up running. No problem with any type of connection so far. Hosting 3 blogs and never went over 100-120 mb of 512 available (1024 burst). As unmanaged VPS you are the only responsible how your website, script or VPS will work. Most of the complains i find it around was from people who didnt know how to set up their DNS, mail, CMS and many other things what is not even close to be something JWH is responsible to deal. Only thing i must agree is little slow response time from JWH support but they did the job every time (2 tickets). When i say slow keep in mind all my tickets was marked with “medium” priority so i cant judge if this is different with “high” priority. Speaking about one man company frankly i dont care even if there is a alien who is managing everything as long i can get what i pay and untill now this was the case. I dont know if JWH will tomorrow disappear, hell i dont know even if tomorrow will be the end of the word – what i know is last 8 months with them and i stand behind everything i say here. One pack of cigarettes in my country is almost more expensive then my monthly cost for VPS (and i smoke like 2 packs/day) so if you dont have that money to risk maybe is time to find some real job.
@Dario
I have two more VPS with the same software configuration : Postfix, Cyrus, nginx, squirrelmail, maradns.
I have no problem with them : they’re responsive, they works perfectly well. So please don’t say i don’t know how to setup my VPS.
I have so many problems in this jollyworkshosting. yeah i admit it cheaper but they have poor quality service. I purchase a domain and hosting to them via online. And almost 3 days they didn’t up what i purchase and still the domain is still available online.how come it was available if somebody already purchase it? then i report to them, as a matter of fact i issue several tickets to them just to inform them about the issue but in the end no one answer my mail.i try to call their philippine land line and mobile and still no one answer. I’m very upset to their service right now. unlike before they have good service but now it was TOTALLY SUCK!