Daniel from ZazoomVPS has sent me some pretty nice offers for the LowEndBox readers. Two choices and one price — $7/month. It gets you either a KVM plan (KVM sign up link) or an OpenVZ plan (OpenVZ sign up link). Very similar spec:
- 1GB memory/1GB swap for KVM and 2GB burstable memory for OpenVZ
- 30GB storage
- 1.5TB/month data transfer
- KVM/OpenVZ + SolusVM
Servers with VolumeDrive in Scranton PA. I guess most people here would be able to tell the difference between KVM and OpenVZ. One for full hardware virtualization and alternative OS install. Another one for better performance and simplified installation, management and upgrade/downgrades.
Too cheap for my liking, nor is Scranton my preferred location but some of you guys are going to take up the offer anyway. Daniel has been quite an active participant here on this blog, although haven’t seen him much on LowEndTalk.
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I don’t like the TOS at all.
> We currently do not allow IRC or IRC bots to be operated on our servers.
> Using a server primarily for backups (33%+ diskspace being used for backups) is prohibited, and offending files may be removed or your account suspended.
> We reserve the right to refuse, cancel or suspend service, at our sole discretion.
> ZazoomVPS reserves the right to amend any or all of the above policies, guidelines and disclaimer without notification. We also retain the right to increase any pricing and make changes to our account plans without notification.
> Audio/Video Streaming is not hosting friendly. As such, ZazoomVPS does not allow any streaming of audio or video content. Offending accounts will be suspended without noticed or terminated.
IRC related restriction would be associated with BurstNET, who provides network for VolumeDrive. Backup space and streaming — those sound like shared hosting restrictions, which is just plain weird for VPS providers.
> We reserve the right to refuse, cancel or suspend service, at our sole discretion.
Thats pretty much standard in this industry.
> ZazoomVPS reserves the right to amend any or all of the above policies, guidelines and disclaimer without notification. We also retain the right to increase any pricing and make changes to our account plans without notification.
Also pretty standard in the industry.
Mind commenting on backup space usage and audio/video streaming?
Audio/Video streaming should never of been in there, I will remove that later today.
We’ve had a few people that set their server to automatically backup their own server every minute and all backups, causing their space to get full within 2 hours, and when you have someone trying to backup 60GB (which only really contained 0.5GB of data), we put that rule in place, however it dosen’t seem to be an issue anymore, so it will probably be removed, and since we do KVM now, its not enforceable.
I left it out for a reason LEA :)
the reason for “no backup” policy is simple: the nodes are heavily undersold. if you add “no streaming” policy there’s no chance in hell anyone would be able to use their allocated recources. pretty much what all oversellers hope for
a typo: nodes are heavily oversold
The reason for that rule was because of some customers excessively backing up (every minute), its been removed since it no longer can be enforced.
Not to mention on KVM its physically impossible for us to oversell on diskspace.
Sorry about not being active on V3 of LeT, I must of forgot about it.
*sniff* We miss you. :)
Also, our KVMs are as easy to install as our OpenVZ, we have some pretty sexy KVM templates in our SolusVM that allow you to install an OS on a KVM VM in seconds.
I find this amazing since solusvm doesn’t support templates, only templates on XEN HVM :)
Francisco
Actually, their templates wrapped in ISOs, you mount the ISO and it loads the template (and does the install)
AFAIK users cannot load their own ISO with KVM/SolusVM but it says “Load your own ISO” on your front page. Is it possible for the user to upload their ISO to load it on their KVM?
Yep, pass us a link to your requested ISO in a support ticket, and we will mount it on your account, as long as its not illegal and compatible with KVM.
There is no way, even with VolumeDrive, Daniel can come out on top with those kind of prices. I would suggest everyone stay clear of this one.
Actually it is. Its a very simple maths:
RAM:
54.95+(85/12)+10+10 = 82.03333333
(1024*15.5)-512 = 187.240959
1024/187.240959 = $5.468888889
+ The 30GB HDD is very easily do able.
This does not include any type of support costs, and very low profit.
These are budget VPS’s you aren’t going to make a $10 or $20 profit.
Depending on what staffing requirements depends on the cost of staff. This also varies along with skill level, time shifts and much more.
In short you have no idea of the business relationship Daniel has with VolumeDrive so you can not accurately estimate his costings per client or VPS. Only he can reveal the true numbers.
By your reckoning BuyVM is also not to be trusted and BuyVM is very well respected on this blog.
I get the dedicated servers for a insanely low price, nothing bad with passing that benefit to my customers.
Just make sure the vendor you leased the servers from won’t suddenly increase the price. Seen it happened quite a few times here :P
Im hoping that it won’t ever come to that,
Yup, that’s why some of us buy them outright. :)
Well that and they’re custom builds so we can get what we want, not what some engineer wants to build.
Can you add SystemRescueCD and Ubuntu 10.04 LTS installation to the list?
Do you have a way of monitoring heavy disk usage?
File a ticket, were get them added.
Just to let everyone know, this vendor is very good with VPS servers.
i have a couple with them, and no problems besides a few network issues(BurstNET) and a time were they moved data to a new hard drive completely wrong.
other than that, i can say ive had no problems.
I stopped reading at IRC not allowed. Sorry, but that’s a joke. None of the 3 big IRC servers have hostserv. Only a few of the top 5 IRC servers have Chanserv/Nickserv. Using a VPS for an irc client is more stable than using a home connection is some cases ( because of power issues or what not ). People have been masking their hosts on IRC before some of you were born in 88′ – Regardless, If you’re going to block IRC, you might as well say no to PROXY servers and VPN.. What a joke… Thanks but no thanks.
Thats not my decision to make at the moment, blame BurstNET and VD.
I’ve bugged to both of them about relaxing on the IRC policy, but they haven’t nugged at all.
100Mbit Port or 1Gbps Shared?
and their are Windows Templates on KVM?
100Mbit Port.
We have Windows ISO, but we mount them per request.
Believe it or not, Windows Loaded VPSs account for 10% off orders, but cause 90% of the servers current load.
Typo there, off* should be of
Can’t believe that you are allowing Windows customers. Not just because of the excessive load they have caused, but just your past attitude towards anything Microsoft.
It’s all about business :)
I heavily persuade them to go with a better OS, but hey, its what people want,
Its like how people want cigarettes, but its not good for you (and they cost you a fortune). That pretty much describes Windows.
Really good host
Bought 3 of these servers from them, Instant setup
Installed Debian via VNC everything is working good
Had a disk I/O problem
Daniel fixed it
Also network is slow right now, opened a support ticker
He said it’s due to alot of people are uploading their data since this is a fresh new node (Will post network test tomorrow)
CPU is not bad:
Did some tests:
Disk I/O
I’m happy with this server, it’s cheap and fast!
I recommend this to everyone that wants a server in the USA
Should be ok now, all nodes pulling in at 100mbit
[root@pancake ~]# wget http://cachefly.cachefly.net/100mb.test
–2011-08-10 12:45:19– http://cachefly.cachefly.net/100mb.test
Resolving cachefly.cachefly.net… 205.234.175.175
Connecting to cachefly.cachefly.net|205.234.175.175|:80… connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response… 200 OK
Length: 104857600 (100M) [application/octet-stream]
Saving to: `100mb.test.6′
100%[======================================>] 104,857,600 10.9M/s in 9.4s
2011-08-10 12:45:29 (10.6 MB/s) – `100mb.test.6′ saved [104857600/104857600]
Yup
100Mbit now
Can i install windows on KVM?
If you contact support, we have a few ISOs that we can mount for you.
We don’t list the Windows ISOs in SolusVM, and they have to be mounted by an admin.
Thanks Daniel, just gone to sign up and KVM is out of stock. knew i should have done it last night :(
Will any more be available soon?
Next few days, we ran dry on stock, even going into the reserves.
Cool, will keep an eye on it.
only paypal is supported :( No alertpay etc..
Plans on extending to Google Checkout soon however,
bought few hours earlier.
it’s connection is good.
but I gave “yum -y update”
it downloaded total 160 files, 120+ mb, it was quick.
now when updating or cleanup or new install, this 160 took more than 15 min.
that’s suck.
It is going for me fine, it could of been a small hiccup.
What version of CentOS/RHEL are you using?
¿The rate at which server is connected?
¿El servidor vota al que se queda conectado?
100Mbit.
Traffic Usage
All account plans come with a predetermined amount of traffic allowance. We monitor all accounts and bill $1.00 for each gig of traffic exceeded. This amount is not prorated, meaning that 1 mb – 1 gig will be treated and billed as the same
I have forward this to Daniel to fix it.
1. How old are you Daniel ?
2. Are you doing this parttime or how do you do ?
3. How much staff ?
4. Can you handle this low-profit for the long run?
That should reveal some important answers towards realiability.
Why exactly does his age Matter? and why are any of them you’re concern…
It does matter if you’re one man that does this parttime. (reduced support).
How much staff? More staff hopefully equals to quicker response.
How old? I dont expect a teenager to handle stressful / loads of problems very well versus older ppl.
And I specially dont expect teenagers to have stable economy versus more mature ppl.
But I would love to see the opposit here if possible :-)- IF you are a teenager that is.
Hostrail’s owner and admin was close to be a teenager if I remember correctly. That didnt go very well :-P
The hostrail guy was in his 20’s, no matter if Daniel is 18 or 30 its irrelivant to us,
“And I specially dont expect teenagers to have stable economy versus more mature ppl.”
haha, just take a look in the dead pool, Most of them companies where ran by adults….
@rass0
How old? I dont expect a teenager to handle stressful / loads of problems very well versus older ppl.
When the problems arrive, it doesnt matter much the age of the person, if theyre not used to handle stress they will fail.
In this case, the most important question would be how many support staff on-site and offsite?
And its my concern if I want to be his customer.
Why do you defend him? Are you the daniel?
Anyways. I would love to be surprised to see his VPS adventure to succeed.
But why not be honest about yourself/business instead of going into defense !?
If there isnt any problems with his age – post it! :-P
Have peaceful day :-)
I am Danielm :) ( There is many daniel’s on here..
I defend him because i think everyone should have a chance, Rather than saying because you are young you are going to fail. As my previous post take a look at the dead pool. I don’t know his age but it’s not really any of my concern.
1. Nearly 17 (I can goto jail in simple terms)
2. I have a parttime job currently, but it doesn’t interfere with ZazoomVPS, in-fact one day I hope to quit and make a living off ZazoomVPS.
3. Two, one is a friend who just helps out.
4. My current goal is not to make large profit, its to give customers a great VPS experience. However, on the profit side of things, from this promo I haven’t made a loss at all, and its made profit.
Great to hear. Thank you for being honest.
:)
When do you get more Stock ?
As soon as the new nodes come through :)
I dont want to go on a node buying spree, then end up in the dead pool :(
1. It doesn’t matter, cowboy. You are as old as your gun.
2. Yes! You should be able to make a living online.
3. Remember, pick a trustworthy friend. Never abandon your friend and treat him/hear as a business partner when you are big and successful.
4. As long as you don’t make any loss, but keep in mind that you need to save some money for business expansion.
Daniel,
Kudos for the honesty. Wish your business the best!
I have no reason to tell porkys :)
I’ve seen full blown companies run by “adults” go under so your age shouldn’t matter.
Provide a great service and your clients will provide you a living. Good luck.
I’m 16 and can manage a (profitable) free VPS business, so don’t let his age turn you off.
Is ZazoomVPS resellers of LoveVPS or dimenoc?
Nope. They do not resell us nor do they use HostDime.
I have a VPS @LoveVPS that I use to host the site and a few other things, that is all. I don’t host my own DNS either, use Linodes Redundant DNS service.
Hi Daniel,
Do you rent hardware or colocate your servers?
Their rented
I purchased OpenVZ from Daniel few hours ago but still I didn’t receive any email of confirmation or anything else.
What is going on??
Check your Junk email inbox, some providers seem to dump it in there.
If its not in there, then you can check the “My Emails” section of the client center.
I saw your order, and it was automatically setup.
*Cough* More Stock *Cough*
Damnit! Missed it again!
A lot more stock on Monday, hoping I can get all the new nodes setup over the weekend.
Cool, hope to grab a KVM monday then :)
Even I’m on the other side of the world, the support is fast enough. The system and internet connection seems stable, so far so good!
Otherwise of the world in terms of the location of servers? or where im based?
Otherside* damn auto correct in lion.
In terms of the location of the servers ;-)
I believe all his servers are hosted in USA.
Although I havent bought a VPS from this provider yet, I do have a positive experience with support. I opened a ticket to ask a question and got a response almost instantly. I was honestly surprised with the speed of the response. A+ there.
I am, however, still a little unsure about my question, So I’ll post it here to get a second opinion.
“Do you allow installing a usenet client on the VPS? one such as Sabnzbd?
I ask this because usenet usually downloads at full network speed and I’m not sure if this would affect other users on the same node.”
So what do you guys think? is it not recommended? or would it be alright. I just don’t want to be suspended for using too much of the network (although I would stay within the bandwidth limit, of course)
Daniel responded “I suppose usenet would be ok, but if it downloads at full network speed and affects other clients, then – as all other VPS providers – it wouldn’t be a ideal thing to have running.”
If one client staying within his purchased “1.5TB/month data transfer” can negatively affect other clients, then their node/network is badly misconfigured/oversold. Or is it “you have 1.5TB but can’t download at full speed blah blah”, wtf.
Bandwidth is not oversold.
I appears I have worded that reply wrong, your more then free to use your 1.5TB of bandwidth available to you, its yours. However, if your going to be running something that is going to download at 100Mbps constantly for days and days, then your going to affect other users on that node. (eg BitTorrent)
Although running you would pretty much run out of bandwidth after around 24 hours of downloading constantly at 100Mbps.
No stock! :(
Wait till monday (tomorrow)
Thanks Daniel! Fast response. Btw, can you post here when stocks gets available please?
Regards
Come on, its been monday for aaaaaaaggessssss now! (joking, im in the uk ;))
Monday now…=)
The guinea pigs are spinning on their wheels as fast as they can to get the nodes online and stock available.
When will that new stock be up? and how much of it?
Hey Daniel, any ETA when stocks will be available? I’m excited to snag one for myself. Thanks..
Well, we missed out on the target for yesterday :(
I’m going to release the stock in portions at different times, so every timezone has a chance to get a piece of cake.
Thanks for the update Daniel. Can you have an update page regarding the servers at least? Something like doesbuyvmhavestock.com so we would know, or a countdown.
I hope you’re fine with it. Or if not, kindly drop your email here so I can contact you.
Regards
Great to hear that. I will surely give your KVM a try! Hope I got the chance
4 days of waiting..
http://istherestockat.zazoomvps.com/
kittes? ponies eat them, ya’ know…
Thanks Daniel.
“I’m going to release the stock in portions at different times, so every timezone has a chance to get a piece of cake.” and now “http://istherestockat.zazoomvps.com/”
=> BuyVM copycat!
BuyVM doesnt hold the idea, its free for everyone to use freely.
80% of the stock last time was taken by Europeans, due to it being released when all Americans were sleeping.
And that site was suggested, but sure copied.
As far as it is a good idea. I don’t mind it being copycat actually.
Do you have any test ip/ test file Daniel?
Try 199.115.229.198
Ill upload a test file for you today.
How far between wifi router/AP and your device huh?
Sorry for the chinese words. I am using Chinese Windows.
It seems the ping are stable.
24x ms is within acceptable range pinging from HK to the Penny County.
Ping 199.115.229.198 (使用 32 位元組的資料):
回覆自 199.115.229.198: 位元組=32 時間=244ms TTL=42
回覆自 199.115.229.198: 位元組=32 時間=245ms TTL=42
回覆自 199.115.229.198: 位元組=32 時間=245ms TTL=42
回覆自 199.115.229.198: 位元組=32 時間=245ms TTL=42
回覆自 199.115.229.198: 位元組=32 時間=250ms TTL=42
回覆自 199.115.229.198: 位元組=32 時間=244ms TTL=42
回覆自 199.115.229.198: 位元組=32 時間=250ms TTL=42
回覆自 199.115.229.198: 位元組=32 時間=252ms TTL=42
回覆自 199.115.229.198: 位元組=32 時間=244ms TTL=42
回覆自 199.115.229.198: 位元組=32 時間=246ms TTL=42
回覆自 199.115.229.198: 位元組=32 時間=245ms TTL=42
回覆自 199.115.229.198: 位元組=32 時間=244ms TTL=42
回覆自 199.115.229.198: 位元組=32 時間=243ms TTL=42
回覆自 199.115.229.198: 位元組=32 時間=242ms TTL=42
回覆自 199.115.229.198: 位元組=32 時間=242ms TTL=42
回覆自 199.115.229.198: 位元組=32 時間=244ms TTL=42
回覆自 199.115.229.198: 位元組=32 時間=244ms TTL=42
回覆自 199.115.229.198: 位元組=32 時間=263ms TTL=42
回覆自 199.115.229.198: 位元組=32 時間=244ms TTL=42
回覆自 199.115.229.198: 位元組=32 時間=247ms TTL=42
回覆自 199.115.229.198: 位元組=32 時間=271ms TTL=42
回覆自 199.115.229.198: 位元組=32 時間=266ms TTL=42
199.115.229.198 的 Ping 統計資料:
封包: 已傳送 = 22，已收到 = 22, 已遺失 = 0 (0% 遺失)，
大約的來回時間 (毫秒):
最小值 = 242ms，最大值 = 271ms，平均 = 248ms
29ms of jitter. Oh well. BTW which ISP are you using?
The jitter should be due to my wireless router, since I forgot my iMAC using wifi.
From my office’s PCCW convergence
Pinging 199.115.229.198 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 199.115.229.198: bytes=32 time=246ms TTL=55
Reply from 199.115.229.198: bytes=32 time=246ms TTL=55
Reply from 199.115.229.198: bytes=32 time=247ms TTL=55
Reply from 199.115.229.198: bytes=32 time=247ms TTL=55
Reply from 199.115.229.198: bytes=32 time=247ms TTL=55
Reply from 199.115.229.198: bytes=32 time=247ms TTL=55
Reply from 199.115.229.198: bytes=32 time=247ms TTL=55
Reply from 199.115.229.198: bytes=32 time=247ms TTL=55
Reply from 199.115.229.198: bytes=32 time=246ms TTL=55
Reply from 199.115.229.198: bytes=32 time=247ms TTL=55
Reply from 199.115.229.198: bytes=32 time=247ms TTL=55
Reply from 199.115.229.198: bytes=32 time=247ms TTL=55
Reply from 199.115.229.198: bytes=32 time=246ms TTL=55
Reply from 199.115.229.198: bytes=32 time=246ms TTL=55
Reply from 199.115.229.198: bytes=32 time=247ms TTL=55
Reply from 199.115.229.198: bytes=32 time=246ms TTL=55
Reply from 199.115.229.198: bytes=32 time=247ms TTL=55
Reply from 199.115.229.198: bytes=32 time=253ms TTL=55
Reply from 199.115.229.198: bytes=32 time=247ms TTL=55
Reply from 199.115.229.198: bytes=32 time=246ms TTL=55
Reply from 199.115.229.198: bytes=32 time=247ms TTL=55
Reply from 199.115.229.198: bytes=32 time=247ms TTL=55
Reply from 199.115.229.198: bytes=32 time=247ms TTL=55
Reply from 199.115.229.198: bytes=32 time=246ms TTL=55
Ping statistics for 199.115.229.198:
Packets: Sent = 24, Received = 24, Lost = 0 (0% loss
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 246ms, Maximum = 253ms, Average = 246ms
I wish my WiFi was that good, I can’t even keep it within 250ms jitter.
Oops sorry how far between wifi router/AP and your device huh?
same room, unless it’s trying to use the one on the other end of the house.
FYI, The upload bandwidth from the servers are capped to around 5Mbits/sec, i can never transfer faster than 400Kbytes /sec.
Its not capped, (as far as we know), but it may depend where your uploading too.
Uploading is usually not as fast as downloading.
As a [hosting] server, that could be a problem.
wget is fine at 5-10MB/sec from cachefly. But upload speed is definitely sub-par.
get more stock now:(
More stock, however will most likely go within 10 minutes of me posting this.
Gone again :(
Finally, full stock later today, if that last. The nodes are currently template syncing (over 100GB of templates to sync).
Full stock of the KVM offer is now available, other KVM plans are at the moment out of stock, however if you want one of them please file a ticket :)
We also have some OpenVZ stock of the offer enabled too,
http://istherestockat.zazoomvps.com/
Some of you feel its appropriate to refresh the order link every second (according to NGINX logs), but you won’t have to refresh no longer :)
Thanks for the update Daniel /yoink
Feel free to hang me for the HUUUUUUUUUUUGE delay, it was the last thing I wanted to happen.
No worries, these things happen :)
Got one….=)
been few hours….but still not approved yet…maybe it’s night time..=)
You used weird characters in some of the fields you typed in, and SolusVM didn’t like them.
I’ve fixed your order, and you shall now have your KVM VPS details :)
thanks…=)
The next batch of these coming into stock shortly, will be the last of this offer.
Might want to spam a few of the competitor listings before doing that.
Another batch in stock, sorry about the long wait.
This will be the last batch of this offer, maybe forever.
I think observer.no.de is really slowing down your site!!
http://www.zazoomvps.com dead..???
The VPS still up…
Are these guys still in business?
Their website is down, their Control Panel says my account doesn’t exist.
Have they vanished or what? I thought something was suspicious when I realized that I didn’t receive an invoice from them this month.
http://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/751
They got marked as deadpool.
Francisco