Updated February 2012 — It’s long time coming, but NordicVPS has finally bite the dust. Website is no longer working on 24 January 2012. Bye!
The death of NordicVPS might have been greatly exaggerated, as they have just emailed me some new offers today. 3 locations, one price — $7/month.
- 768MB guaranteed/1024MB burstable memory
- 20GB storage
- 1TB/month data transfer
- OpenVZ/SolusVM
Servers in either Fremont CA (HE.net), UK (Burst) or Germany (Hetzner). NordicVPS colo their own servers in US and in UK, but on leased servers in Germany. No IRC, no torrent, etc. They do seem to have more machines coming up in US to allow them scale out economically. We’ll see.
NordicVPS has been around for 2 years, and they are operated from Denmark. Check their past offers for comments and reviews.
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gigBIT Servers?
Not GigE, but we will upgrade in UK this summer and US later this year
Following packages are also avaiable:
LowEndBox – OVZ512
512MB guaranteed/1024MB burstable memory
15GB storage
1TB/monthly data transfer
OpenVZ/SolusVM
https://nordicvps.com/order/ovz512-uk
https://nordicvps.com/order/ovz512-de
TUN/TAP will be enabled on request for all VPS plans
GRE / SIT and PPP features available on all OVZ128 and OVZ256 in Germany on request
FUSE is also available on all OVZ128 and OVZ256 nodes.
NordicVPS Minecraft VPS
2048MB guaranteed/4096MB burstable memory
30GB storage
500GB/monthly data transfer
$20/month — Order Germany: http://nordicvps.com/order/ovz2048-wht
More info: https://nordicvps.com/vps-ovz2048.html
100 MB Test File: http://46.4.176.195/100mb.test
We got plenty of different ranges of VPS plans for every need :)
They are down 3 weeks already in Fremont CA location which is almost week longer than their previous downtime on german location. They said that they need to replace some part of a server while they don’t even colocate in fremont. And honestly how many WEEKS takes usually to replace broken part of a server anyway?
Lies, lies, and lies from one of the most incompetent wanna-be-company ever featured at LEB. This guy is pathological liar and crook unable to manage any server with more than 80% uptime. Not worth to waste your time for them… unless some MONTH (yes, month!) of downtime here and there is aceptable for you.
:DDD I don’t accept several months each year as my downtime !
But I saw people complaining about “the sick node”! how did they manage to open all those new nodes without paying for the old one yet! And how did they manage to revive from death from first place? maybe they WON LOTTERY SOMEWHERE!
How can they offer $7 servers in Fremont when their node has been dead for 3+ weeks?
It’s virtual afterall ;)
their server in Fremont is not down, they lost it.
He’s just trying to get rid of $15/yr customers with lies.
He’s a liar, scam artist and it’s so amazing LEB even posting this crap again.
Does LEB wants more people to lose money, if so, why?
LEB is not a market place, it’s a blog looking for VPS’s under 7 dollar and this is insane the case here.
This company nordicVPS is totally a lier and scammer, below is what they said, surprised!?
———–
You should understand we provide a very low budget VPS product @ $15/year and can not guarantee 100% uptime either network or system
Even we run RAID10 we are hit by a unforeseen accident. As previously announced its your responsibility to have backup of your data.
Please do not submit tickets demanding we recover your data!
———-
I spent $15 on their vps, but finally I lost all my data which costs me more than $200, and I doubt they use RAID10.
Here is the secret and the truth, earlier they mentioned they actually did not earn money from $15 vps, so they made up an accident, they just wanted to drive away the clients from their servers, then they can make more money from the scratch.
I’m responsible for what I said here, nordicvps is the worst vps provider I’ve ever seen, they are unreliable and untrusted.
Buyers beware!
“If they can’t put their best behind an offer and keep up with what is included then they shouldn’t sell it”
Blaming the price for their screwups shouldn’t fly in this industry.
Francisco
I love LEB but yeah I dont know why this was posted, they have a terrible terrible reputation.
Maybe they are trying to have a new beginning? (or perhaps not?)
Then they should have taken Pat’s example with Garman Online and issue refunds for services they simply can’t render, not operate on a ‘well we screwed up and everyone that hasn’t had service for months and month and months can eat it while we take on new ones – sorry!’
I highly doubt they colocate anything since if they gave two craps about their clients they would be using this equipment to get people back online.
LEA, did they provide you a test IP for FMT? It’ll be easy to spot if they’re with egihosting or HE direct.
Francisco
It’s egihost 68.68.96.x IP range.
Egi has some boxes on sale right now, i7 2600’s or whatever they’re known as so if they are using those CPU’s the changes of them colocating is highly unlikely (especially considering egi charges a lot for anything > 1A in colo).
Francisco
They tryed to have new beginning few times already. When something goes wrong this guy dissapear. Complete ignorance per weeks. Unanswered support tickets, etc. After he finally fix issue he appear in public, start to replay tickets and announce new beginnign with better support, etc. Till next issue and next ignorance. That’s nordicVPS pattern.
Anyone notice they’re linking to linodes test file for Fremont?
Francisco
ORLY!!
I see it… What a shame
And the others are from the datacenters, not his bandwidth… (softlayer, hetzner)
http://nordicvps.com/network.html
Download (100MB) — Fremont, CA 100MB (http://64.71.152.17/100MB-fremont.bin)
;; ANSWER SECTION:
17.152.71.64.in-addr.arpa. 86097 IN CNAME 17.0-24.152.71.64.in-addr.arpa.
17.0-24.152.71.64.in-addr.arpa. 86097 IN PTR fremont1.linode.com.
Indeed, their US server is down for almost a month !! Their $15 offer was a scam.
I just want to know why LEA posts this scammer’s offer, that’s the main issue here.
Everybody knows Sean(Nordic)is a crooked scammer, but why LEA kindly posting his offer here?
Why LEA driving LOB into ditch? I just Don’t understand.
Because they offer cheap VPS? I have been posting crap as well as good providers on this blog. How long have been reading here? Or do you have some other agenda to push?
He’s most likely just pissed off nordicvps user like many of us.
Me – as a guy which want to read bad and good vps offers I actually also see here a bit of difference. You said that they just emailed you with new offers. What offers? This host atleast partially can’t give us LEB featured offer as one of their main location (fremont) isn’t online almost a month. So even posted here as offer this isn’t really offer. Atleast not serious one.
But then again, I don’t mind to see this fake offer posted here as it come with a lot of warnings of real nordicvps customers and whoever decide to become their new customer disregarding all those warnings most likely deserve to be scammed because own lack of responsability.
+1, I agree that no one’s gonna buy after reading the comments :D
so all the scammers sends you a new offer, would you post?
many people suffered because of this guy, you don’t seem to care whether people suffer or not.
that’s all.
it’s easy.. just click close button on your browser.
another easy way. just don’t buy anything from this guys. LEA only posting the offer, you’re the judge. you decide it to catch the offer or not. simple.
I fully agree with CPS. LEA shares what he received, and reader decides whether to (or not to) take up the offer, it is definitely readers’ responsibility.
I guess I didn’t put in my caveat emptor tone in my post?
A lot of time I post crap offers so you guys can come to ridicule the providers. Forgot about those? :P
Yeah I have fun with that xD
And this is the funniest xD
I have to admit that I’m surprised to see this offer posted as well. While I’ve never had a box with these folks, hearing horror story after horror story about them makes me wonder what this listing of doing here. I’m going to jump on the bandwagon and question why known scammers who have screwed over readers of this blog are being listed.
Just because they’ve sent in an offer doesn’t mean you have to post it, LEA. Although if you are going to post the offer, put a warning in the post content, not just a suggestion to check the previous offerings and comments.
Don’t worry, they will shut down after reading the comments here :)
They thought clients must forgotten that they scammed $15/year boxes.. and LEB was just being kind with them :'(
Well, the main purpose and rules set forth by LEA are to post lowend VPS deals. Of course LEA always (when available) post background data and his 2cents on any offer so that readers and RSS-subscribers of this blog KNOW what LEA is thinking about this offer.
Hence, I believe, LEA did the right thing in posting the offer and posting a little background on it as well.
Thanks LEA
My NordicVPS in Fremont has been down for almost a month now. The last official email I got from them on April 25 said:
“We need to replace some hardware in the server and it will take a few days to complete.
The server will be back earlist at end of this week or first by end of next week.”
The “end of next week” came and went.
If they have servers in Fremont that they’re selling to new customers, why haven’t they restored their existing customers who have been down a very, very long time, yet?
Please take care of your existing customers before you try to pick up new ones.
If
I evenany of you thought I was trying something like this you all would have me tarred and feathered.I say give them the LEB retribution! :)
How can they sell more vps in egi without the old’s recovery?!
My vps has been down for nearly 1 month!
And BTW ,their German VPS does not support IPv6, I didn’t see IPv6 addr in my vps. And I tried to add, failed.
My 1 month free VPS in Germanyas has been Suspended.
Just used 1 day .
I don’t konw why：-（
Just a suggestion, AlertPay & MoneyBookers payment option is good.
Here is one of the reason:
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?p=7458554&posted=1#post7458554
Just enabled AlertPay and Moneybookers — Feel free to test it out and provide your feedback.
Well I see a lot of trash about NordicVPS, however they didn’t hit me with it on my yearly deal with them, allthough it feels like I’m the only one using the node I’m on, it’s superfast.
Could you please provide some proof of such? You don’t even mention what location you’re in.
ip = 46.4.245.**
Location: Falkenstein, Germany
What is so fishy about this?
15:15:17 up 7 days, 18:31, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
7 days a go I reinstalled the OS to debian.
Nothing fishy, just them :)
I’m glad to hear your are happy with our services.
I was going to ask the same
I have the same questions as @drmike
Sounds fishy!
This is impossible.
First their week or so long downtime affected only part of their german nodes users, but second one when they tryed to squeeze all german nodes to one mega node to reduce costs affected ALL their german nodes customers for around 2 – 3 weeks. And now same story with Fremont node customers. Burst location is new. So on which location are you? Imho your post is a lie.
Either that or they’re so new to this provider, that they haven’t faced the previous problems others have had.
There’s only like 4/5 months left of my yearly deal.
I haven’t been using it that intense the whole year but that’s usually the case for me.
You’re sean, aren’t you?
Hello every1,
I had troubles with Norfic VPS but Sean helped me after that i never had a problems .. mine VPS is up for 12days
I think u guys shouldn’t be that negative about them just make a ticket and they will help u!
Regards
Cashtro
Haha, that’s funny. In nordickVPS queve must be like 99.9% of never answered tickets. If there’s any host which completely ignore support tickets is this nordickVPS and yet come here some strange suspicious newcomers with one post claiming how great and helful guy this Sean is. What a joke..
I was about to write that my VPS with Nordic was quite quick… then I tested it.
I ran the same test here much quicker.
To test it was not down to geography I ran the same on my Mac Mini from home.
So much for the 100 Mbps Uplink :(
If you have a OVZ512 or higher plan, submit a ticket to get your limit raised. Thanks
some kind of comedy is going on here, so sorry for Sean, just a bottom dweller.
omg, they give new offer while my us$15/year still not up…, what a scam..
Hello
Free VPS provided in Germany for all affected $15/year Fremont, US customers
https://nordicvps.com/order/ovzcrash-fremont – Use Coupon: 7Re8aYav
I’ve got NordicVPS and BuyVM $15/year accounts. BuyVM lost their Fremont server at the same time NordicVPS did. BuyVM had my $15/year account up and running on their Ottawa server within 24 hours – no registration required, no questions asked. I’m not going to take up NordicVPS on their offer – they should restore my server without me asking. I’m also wary of the $100 recurring monthly charge the NordicVPS offer includes, which is waived for one month. Is this another scam?
We lost a server…? We had a power outage at the start of the month but that was entirely HE’s fault :) If you have some weird ticket let me know though!
Francisco
I should add that when you don’t claim it you’re falling into what they hope, lemme do up the figures.
When they’re in FMT they have to pay monthly for all of their IP space (on top of their dedicated server RENTAL fee’s). Why do I say rental? Because egihosting doesn’t have a gbit of spare capacity going to Fremont #2 and they aren’t provisioning customers in FMT 1 anymore either – only San Jose. Egi hasn’t had spare space in Fremont in quite a long time, since late last year.
Now, Their subnet is costing them, at minimum, $100/m for a /24 where as in Germany subnets are billed a one time only cost. While it’d be best if you made them pay for the ip space in Fremont, it simply isn’t going to happen. By at least taking the Germany offering you’re making them pay out at least SOMETHING for your setup to be online.
I hate being the devils advocate here as it’s seen as ‘slagging on the competition’ but anyone with half a brain cell will see that these guys have been doing the exact same thing since last year.
Fight for your spots in Fremont because when you don’t you’re letting them get away with robbery.
Francisco
@Fransisco
What are you insinuating?
I think it is great LEB are giving NordicVPS the benefit of the doubt.
Adam,
I’m not insinuating anything, i’m simply pointing out that their claims are likely false. We use egihosting for our racks and after the HE power outage we had a talk with them about what options we had in Fremont #2 and in San Jose – I’m fully aware of what egihosting has available and where.
I think it’s a pretty bad thing to considering there’s hundreds of clients without their data right now and they don’t seem to have a care in the world. They’ve had multiple huge fallouts in Germany and have done 3+ IP renumbers to try to ‘get’ to their current stage.
I’ve said it in many threads and I’ll continue to say it until their clients, even the 128MB ones, are given what they paid for *where* they paid for it – anything less is a robbery.
Why did they have to close their San Jose XEN offerings? there’s a thread on LowEndTalk about it with screenshots/PDF’s of the email from Asim. It’s West Coast, probably one of the strongest markets in webhosting right now. They closed Chicago as well but claimed that was due to simply no demand (which is fine since I don’t know the Chicago market well anymore) but closing the west coast? Come on.
I will repeat myself – THEY HAVE HUNDREDS OF CLIENTS WITHOUT SERVICE AND REFUSE TO GIVE THEM WHAT THEY PAID FOR. A server in Germany isn’t the same as a server in Fremont.
Francisco
Yes, I wrote and posted those blog posts and topics. I simply dont know why they chose for yearly plans and why they never rethink on their strategy after last year’s mishap (communication outage).
I was a happy customer, until they started acting all supportless and (when they finally replied) refused to move me to another node at the same price I was paying them for San Jose. Asked me for twice as much as I was paying in San Jose
This is what I got
Anyway, I have moved on. I just dont understand how can they come up looking for new customers when the previous ones (in 100’s) are still VPS-less. Pretty strange!
Why would anyone waste his time with new setup for temporal vps after one month downtime anyway? What about to pay bills to egihost to get old vps back? Your crappy service isn’t worth of my additional 2 hours of work, especially knowing that you have constant issues no matter which node I use. Whoever will pick this one month offer will get what? Constant issues for 65% uptime? Heh, keep this crap.
btw. and you owe to your german node users +1 additional month for past issues anyway!
True, its not worth the effort
@LongShot We will migrate the VPS from Germany to US once the node is back online.
NordicVPS will have a strong presence in Fremont and UK from Summer 2011 with VPS offering starting at $5.95/mo for OVZ512 and we will also have some few stocks of OVZ256 available in both locations.
Btw. We have a full 42u rack in Fremont with 1000 Mbps network with our own hardware. We use Enterprise disks and RAID10 for all servers and only the XEON CPUs.
In UK we use i7-950 CPUs and RAID10 with a mix of Seagate and WD disks.
In Germany we use the i7-975 EXTREME @ 3.33 GHz pr Core for OV128 and OVZ256 nodes.
and Core i7 980 EXTREME @ 3.33GHz for all OVZ512 and higher plans.
All networks are 1000 Gbps but limited to 100 Mbps pr node and 10 Mbps for smallest VPS plans.
“10 Mbps for smallest VPS plans.”
That is not what your website says http://nordicvps.com/vps.html
(screenshot http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4625911/Screen%20shot%202011-05-19%20at%2016.42.04.png)
Please take a look at my comment any response?
Smallest plan: OVZ128 and OVZ256 :)
Ticket #346257 submit as we have OVZ512
Boost to 1000 Gbps, test it and let me know :)
You will be limited to 100 Mbps by midnight.
That’s much better :)
root@vault:~# wget -O /dev/null http://cachefly.cachefly.net/100mb.test--2011-05-19 22:10:40-- http://cachefly.cachefly.net/100mb.test
Resolving cachefly.cachefly.net... 205.234.175.175
Connecting to cachefly.cachefly.net|205.234.175.175|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 104857600 (100M) [application/octet-stream]
Saving to: `/dev/null'
100%[======================================>] 104,857,600 26.4M/s in 4.3s
2011-05-19 22:10:44 (23.3 MB/s) - `/dev/null' saved [104857600/104857600]
root@vault:~# uptime22:12:53 up 18 days, 2:32, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
No problems since early March, not sure why only 18 days uptime though. Overall pretty happy with the service.
Very good :)
Uptime -> Security update required reboot
Was announced on Twitter: @nordicvps 1 May -> Server reboot planned for tonight. All servers will be rebooted.
http://twitter.com/nordicvps
http://ksplice.com
Ksplice can’t help you if you use custom kernels.
Sure it can, you can use the community release uptrack and build your own patches against your source.
We have been in touch with ksplice in regards of our XEN nodes but awaiting going forward with the OpenVZ nodes but mainly all OVZ512 boxes will get ksplice’d with no doubt.
@Tim Thanks for the tip, We will consider the custom kernel option :)
Impressive! The only thing that’s missing is … my account!
It will be back pretty soon!
when? I heard that one month ago.
heh ?!
they should at minimum prepare this before offering any of their services
We are awaiting some new servers to arrive to the DC and some other updates.
You have a full 42u Rack but you are unable to put people back online since one month. You are joking or you are taking us (your Customer) for fool.
Where do I find OVZ768 (or whatever it’s called) offer as listed in the post? I don’t see the link anywhere …
Links burred in description :)
Servers in either Fremont CA (HE.net), UK (Burst) or Germany (Hetzner).
Direct links:
US of America: https://nordicvps.com/order/ovz768-us
Germany: https://nordicvps.com/order/ovz768-de
United Kingdom (UK): https://nordicvps.com/order/ovz768-uk
So you have .us capacity available for sale and yet you refuse to migrate affected customers to them? What a crook!
Can you provide us your VPS username so we can verify you are an actual customer, please?
Thanks
Do you see any specific reason for that? While I can understant that you don’t appreciate my appearance here I am pretty sure that you know that I am one of your customer, you just don’t know which one, correct? Well, as you NEVER reply to support tickets I don’t see a reason to provide you here with anything unless you decided to refund 15$ payment to customers which you scam.
Spirit: So you have .us capacity available for sale and yet you refuse to migrate affected customers to them? What a crook!
NordicVPS: Can you provide us your VPS username so we can verify you are an actual customer, please?
Irrelevant reply. What will do my public VPS username here in order to make you more reponponsible person? What about to start to reply to support ticket instead another pretending like “from now one everything will be better” crap which you serve as everytime AFTER some issues finally get fixed?
And yes, I can always report my IP/username to lets say LEB admin as higher impartial authority on those pages. But this wont makes you lesser scam.
Anyone else find it in very poor taste that he’s asking for information but refusing to do so himself?
@Yannick
I understand the frustration, but there are reasons why the VPS’¨s has not been restored yet. We had to wait for the replacement hardware and now we decided to wait until its ready.
We are here advertising new offers to show everyone that we are live and silence the nonsense from competitors who keep pushing their agenda and rumors about the state of NordicVPS :)
I can ensure you, we will provide a new VPS and minimum 1 – 2 months of free service in US for all affected customers in Fremont!
Its real shame that someone few raise their voice and uses this opportunity to spread rumors and stories about everything and nothing to create a false drama to make everything look far worse.
Once we realized the hardware replacement takes longer than expected, all affected customers were offered free VPS in Germany for minimum 1 month while we recover the crashed node.
We got overwhelmed by the $15/year offer and had to do some hard work to split customers on OVZ128 from customers on higher plans as the infrastructure in Germany does not allow for an easy solution.
Since the re-arrangement we have not yet experienced any problems with customers/nodes in Germany.
We had to disk crashes in Fremont, we had the disks replaced twice — These are Enterprise disks and does not come cheap and after this recent crash, we have decided to use the opportunity to re-arrange customers in Fremont, which will help us provide a better performance and stability.
We are working on it, but unfortunately its taking more than desired and we are equally frustrated with the slow moving phase as we are also eager to get everything settled fast and mute the nonsense that has been surrounding NordicVPS.
Believe me, we are not happy with the current situation.
You are not happy at the situation that fine but the main issue is that you are offering offers in a location where you still have customer offline since 1 month. That the reason lot of people is declaring your company as a scam and also declaring your company as dead or doubtful. Cause what is being seen is that you are not working on solving the main issues of having customer offline but working on offering we package on the same location.
We have separate nodes for OVZ128/OVZ256 and for OVZ512+
We can not just move you to another node since that will just cause an overload on that server and affect even more customers.
We are investing a fair amount of money into the Fremont facility to accommodate the need but are also forced to face the ongoing depletion of the IPv4 space and increasing fees pr IP/month crossing $0.80/mo vs $0.50/mo
As stated earlier, we are taking this opportunity to regroup the setup in Fremont and we will bring some great offers for all.
If you are paying $0.50 or $0.80 for an IP, you have no business in the $15/yr market. Go apply for IP space from Arin, or get out a calculator, the costs just do not add up, why would you take on a loss unless you massively oversell the nodes, or seriously underpower the node. You keep saying disk failure, so you used a single or RAID1 for the service? You have no truthful looking answers, so it is hard not to want to bash your statements.
Yes, I am a provider, but I am nobodies completion. I’d just like to see you acting a little more ethical, but that may be a dream that will never be fulfilled.
There is nobody spreading rumors here, just facts that you don’t like.
If any one is interested in a partnership with us, e.g. joining force/reselling our VPS’s, feel free to get in touch with us.
*snort* You’re joking, right?
Now he’s comming there shamelessly to call us “competitors which spread rumours”, heh… Sean something like this would go through when you first time dissapeared after longer downtime. But with all issues together you did that too many times to fool anyone. I would maybe forgive you first week of downtime.. but all rest and your ignorance… no. It’s not just about your crappy service and incompetence. I would easily let it go. But about your attitude, lack of responsability. You did this to us simply too many times and we can’t do anything as we foolishly paid for whole year.
Things can go wrong, but with you things go wrong every month. How will look my german vps uptime after this first (and last) year usage? 10 months up, 2 months down? You’re freakin hosting service provider not hobbyist which give us something on “as is basis”.
No, I am not your competitor. I am just a guy which never got reply on more than one (for me) important ticket when your german service was unavailable few weeks. And now is the same. Oh yes, I can provide my username anytime, but what for? As a hypocrite which ignore support tickets you don’t deserve to request anything.
lol.. ya i bet he wouldn’t mind someone with some cash to pay for his servers
right now.
NordicVPS, I’m going to give you the chance to prove what you’re saying.
Please provide a scanned copy of the order documents of the “replacement hardware” that has been on order.
Until you do so, I don’t think you have any right to criticize those reminding you of your failures nor do you have the right to demand information of others.
In other words, put up or shut up.
I think that’s fair and I think the rest of us could abide by that.
Could someone please post this request over on WHT please?
Emailed to NordicVPS as well.
I think you will not get a positive answer….
Let’s give him the chance.
But then again, he might buy some gear here and there :)
Ok, ok… I am silent already :P
@Spirit hahahah lol. Yes, but they must get a ticket with a date of one month ago. Anyway, what ahrdware?? Someone knows what hardware had that node?
You folks don’t think I’ve thought this request out?
I think a better one would be an invoice from egi showing the full purchae of a rack, etc.
Francisco
Not really. I have a specific reason why I’m asking for this doc and not for a rack invoice.
Trust me. I have my reasoning that I would rather not go into yet.
Looks like the “Hardware” term they are using refers to….to… the CPU cache memory and nothing else, I think. And then, they need to go down to that Nano level and open the CPU, and replace cache memory. And no, hacking a USB flash memory (they might have done and wasted their time) WON’t help them, because after soldering the chips and soldering the motherboard altogether, then again the speed of USB flash, is vastly lower than the speed their CPU requires..!
Forget it. That was just a jump into air by me, but I wait to see their response with required docs, You gave them a fair chance I have to say.
Sorry, we will under no circumstances release any documents related our business and/or partners.
Then you’re a lair and a fraud.
*sigh* No comments. Have a nice day Dr Mike
@NordicVPS
Please react to ticket #668988 and #493574. I’m waiting for this more than a month!
Check your emails. Thanks
Sure, and please don’t forget to get back to me :)
Thanks for the fun, LEA. But if you’re going to post offers from scammers, thieves, lairs and frauds, I think my time is better spent elsewhere.
Heh heh heh…
drmike, I think its good to have scammers, thieves, lairs and frauds, once in a while, so this forum will be mature even more and the reader can decide.
LEA has to take the good with the bad but I would have hoped by now there was enough marks against them to justify no relisting. Patrick had 2 big messes and even though he handled it a 100x’s better than Sean has, I would still expect them to be unable to get a listing here.
I know things can come up and some bad spots can be hit, we’ve had our share, but none of it has lead to clients being down for well over a month. The old /24 you had with egi is dead to all pings so it’s obvious the block isn’t in use anymore by them – at all.
egihosting doesn’t just give subnets to people, even if they’re willing to pay full price for it. When we originally moved in with them we had to barter and argue to get the 2 /24’s we got – and they were from HE not egi.
Francisco
Very well spoken Francisco :)
+1
Hey doc, stay. Nordick buffon will sooner or later dissapear and he’s not important in lowendbox story. With or without those part-time hobbyist hosting buffons it’s still nice community and you’re part of it.
Our attempt to answer and address the dissatisfaction and at the same time hold certain business details concealed makes it difficult to provide a comprehensive and acceptable answers to your concerns.
Unfortunately we can not disclose our business partners or business plans but be reassured that we are working to introduce new and exciting initiatives in Fremont, California with great opportunities.
Once again I encourage those who wish to enter a partnership with NordicVPS with our new venture in Fremont, U.S. and UK to contact us.
@Affected Customers: All services will be restored and the expiry period will be extended by one to two months.
We will not comment further on this matter.
There is a thirty day difference between 1 and 2 months, which is it? If its one just say one.
When? Are you out of money to pay bills to egihost?
This would explain why our node is gone month ago and you’re looking for partnership.
Plus stealing those $15/year plans which makes a good amount of money! If clients didn’t catch them from neck it is obvious that they would never attempt to talk again about it!
Secondly to NordicVPS, if you was saying the truth, you would use that chance happily and provide even MORE than what was asked to prove you didn’t just lie & lie & lie!
Plus, whoever would try to know “secrets” of YOUR business module! That was silly excuse.
Lame excuses
He doesn’t have server, order what?
He lost servers, and trying to make money by scamming new people.
This guy is really a crook!
Hi,please help me opening the vps 。。I have to pay fees, but the hosts had still not open. Who can help me? My basis is 4454
We have taken care of your issue now. Thank you.
@ Nordicvps, The resquested documents if given out will and will never has any impact on your business plan nor your business strategy. AS what is requested is a proof from you that your Company NordicVps has order a new HDD and if you we a good businessman you would have taken this chance to proof that you are caring and doing your best to get out of this issue.
First, drmike only asked for a PO and never asked for the price and I am sure if you did show a PO without the price everyone here would have been assured that you we doing the job. But instead you do give out irrelevant reason and excuses for not giving out information about such Issue.
I do remember an issue on hosting some years back where Francisco was involve and both parties to proof that they were of good faith they did put online document related to the issue where you did find billing information and also paypal transaction between the parties. This is good Business management and customer caring.
But you Nordicvps none of these you have been doing the only thing you get to say is believe me I am doing my best to solve the Issue but don’t asked for proof only trust my words. But how can we trust you as our VPS is offline for 0ne months now and further more all data is lost. And now you are giving out new vps plan in fremont the same DC where you have lot of customer offline and to proof that you are taking us for fool you said here I owe a 42U rack in Fremont for this so how with a 42U rack you cannot put up these customer VPS temporarily up there in fremont till you sort out the issue of the crash HDD.
Agreed, Its absurd to state that showing the proofs will somehow disturb the “business partners or business plans”
Right, we did this when we ordered a batch of new gear.
We had full records of all of the UPS tracking and such since people were so excited about the setup. There’s nothing wrong with being transparent/honest with clients!
Francisco
He never ordered anything, because he doesn’t have any server.
Just lies, trying to scamming people.
lesson learned : “Preapare the hardware, software, etc before you realeased them to public for sales”
What do people expect to gain from all this crazy talk – that they loss all business and get forced to shutdown and leave everyone in the dark?
They given away free VPS in Germany and promised free extension of the US VPS, but you are still not satisfied?
Did they provide a SLA for the $15/year VPS? I doubt it!
$15 divided by 365 days equals $0.04/day — 30 days offline ~ $1.20 worth of spunk — its worth this much drama?
I fail to see what people are trying to achieve by bashing NordicVPS.
I count the same gang of people repeating the mantra that they been scammed and throws vicious attack against this provider but are also having a go on LEA, trying to teach him how to run his website.
What is the goal? Please enlighten me.
You want to talk but still hide your real name? Eh!
The customers did not set the price tag for the products that NordicVPS provisioned and sold. The SLA for lowendboxes is, “if the gear goes down, we will try to get it up ASAP” but ASAP is never equal to a MONTH.
Secondly, they are selling in the same DC as he yearly customers and although the yearly customers are still VPS-less, the are selling it to new customers? What would you make of that? I am pretty sure you never read the entire thread else you would not be asking these questions.
Just my .02 here:
A lot of people make money off their VPSs, and even though these are Low end ones, people make a lot of profit off them.
I would be extremely pissed off if I made $20.00/day, just 20, because 20×30= $600.00 I lost because some provider was down for a month.
To some people, their data is even more important. Databases especially. Losing all that data that is sometimes near unacceptable to everyone, especially if it had databases for purchases, customer information, etc.
If my provider was down for a month, I would be entirely upset, and if I lost all my data, I’d probably never deal with websites and online purchases anymore because that’s a lot of work that even backups won’t make a difference.
Also, Nordic especially from all the comments have very shady responses. If I was new to this VPS business, I’d be avoiding them completely after reading this, and I will avoid anyway.
You can lose a lot of customers and customer reputation in your site if it was down for even a few days once dealing with ANOTHER provider just to get your site up from when you backed up.
We already deal with a lot of stress (in general) websites and things going wrong in servers and having a month downtime and dealing with other providers makes it even worse.
I am not a NordicVPS customer (as I’m only able to pay via AlertPay & MoneyBookers right now), so to me watching this thread is PopCorn and American Idol time :)
I have several VPS from several providers that offered similar pricing:
BuyVM, 123System, hostrail, GarmanOnline (previously). Yes, they do have downtimes, but they replied my tickets and resolve the problems immediately, and in the past 6 months their uptime is great.
Even for hostrail who previously known to perform fsck and reboot 3 times a day (heh heh heh just like talking pills when you’re ill) and tweet about DDOS attack on their nodes almost once a day, they try to satisfy their customers. They moved my VPS to other nodes several times until I am satisfied with the node (or getting sick of opening new ticket), fortunately this hostrail node I am on now is quite stable.
From this thread I can see that now NordicVPS is having a bad time, (I’m not sure it is technical or financial), but from my point of view based on this thread NordicVPS should resolve the problem with unhappy customers first before posting a new offer.
$15 divided by 365 days equals $0.04/day — 30 days offline ~ $1.20.
This $1.20 can hurt customers’ Google Rank or even cause customer loosing potential income. At the end, too many disgruntled customers might only hurt NordicVPS’ good reputation.
To sum it up, what I learn from this thread is when one starts to offer services to public, then one should be prepared to be able to deliver the services taking account on all possible risk that might occur, and preferably service delivery with no glitch.
Cheers,
p.s.
Technically, Casey Abrams, Haley Reinhart, and James Durbin are better singer and musician, but Scotty McReery and Lauren Alaina grabs people’s heart and they do can sing. Remember, there are two types of audience, those who enjoy listening to good music, and those who likes to sing-a-long.
As Asim and many others have said, it isn’t the end users fault that Nordic put cheap prices and promised the moon. Their $15/y plans fell under the exact same SLA as the rest of their stuff.
If nordic had said ‘These have no SLA and we cant promise we will keep them going because we dont know how to use a calculator’ then buyer beware and dust your hands. The fact of the matter, though, is they promised tons and now that they hit a bad patch are blaming the price for it and downplaying it as ‘well it IS a cheap plan, such is life’.
I can tell you right now if we had any of our 128MB nodes go down for multiple days without a well detailed explanation of why and what we’re doing to resolve it, we’d be hung by our toes and rightfully so. The budget hosting market is not something anyone can ‘get rich quick in’. Nordic, like us, should feel humbled that they even get clients willing to host with them – there are countless hosts that belly within days/weeks because they can’t.
Show your customers some respect for christ’s sake.
Francisco
I’ve got one of the $15/year NordicVPS plans that’s been down for a month now. No, it’s not a big deal for me. I wasn’t using it for much, anyway. But it’s the principle of the whole thing.
I can’t think of many good reasons for any server to be down for a month. But even with that, you can kind of just say, “it is what it is” and write it off.
The thing that is upsetting, and I think the reason there are so many responses here, is that they had the nerve to try to sell new plans to customers without taking care of their existing customers who’ve been down for a month first. That’s what really stinks about all this.
In my opinion, they should put everything else on hold until they can get their existing customers up and running again. Letting them sign up for a temporary plan in Germany and then having to move it again later doesn’t cut it.
They must have known releasing new plans at this time would have gotten a large negative response, so I can only guess that they must be thinking that “there’s no such thing as bad press.”
Thanks you.
Nice to see others with the same idea of what I’m thinking.
I offered to be a third party to clear things up. (You’d be amazed at how many NDAs I sit on.) They said no.
Guess they don;t want to clear up their past.
I guess they are at fault else putting documents online (if they really are true) is not a big issue. Dont leave LEB/LET Dr Mike
Never said online. Just said provide.
Probably should have clarified the method and my willingness to go under a NDA but well you get the idea….
Plain and simple:
He who is honest to clients, owns sufficient IP Blocks, owns some of the boxes, and has good technical & managerial skills rules the Low End Market.
@drmike
@asimzeeshan
Maybe you should reveal about your relationship with BuyVM?
drmike could not post on WHT but had to request someone to open a thread on WHT
cedric (buyvmcountdown.cedricd.org) to the rescue and creates a re-post of partial discussion on LEB on WHT
If others do not see the pattern, at least they should reconsider where this artificially created customer rage against NordicVPS has its root.
Oh boy, why dont you learn. Read the blog post on my blog about NordicVPS and how I was their customer and they closed the doors on me by closing down the whole San Jose node (http://www.asim.pk/2011/04/22/nordicvps-down-the-drain/). If you still dont believe (after seeing the slide-shares on my blog post), ask NordicVPS to confirm I was their customer in San Jose.
The same way, I am a customer of BuyVM, VooServers, HazeNet, QuickWeb, TheHostHouse, BURSTNET and a lot more. My relationship with BuyVM? What do you want me to say? Francisco is my uncle :P LOL
@Foobar You are a strange little man and if you cant see what everyone is talking about then you have my sympathies. I pitty on you!
Even though Foobar and NordicVPS haven’t done so, I will be happy to explain. Some of us have ethics.
Simple: I have no professional or financial relationship between buyvm. The only thing that comes close is that I follow Fran on Twitter. Gotta admit that I wonder if Fran is his real name. (Being honest here.)
I believe one of the folks who have recently offered me a tunneling account is through one of buyvm vpses but I have not verified that. At one time Fran offered to hold me a 128meg VPS but I turned him down.
I gave Fran by 2.1k karma points over at LET just to get rid of them.
As I’ve noted a couple of times before, I was banned from WHT for posting a negative review about one of their advertisers and a rented Hong Kong server with a 40%ish uptime. Repeated requests for an explanation and a removal of the ban have been ignored. I have no intention of any returning to that site and think poorly of the moderators of that site. I have a +2ish point rating for any email from that site listed on my antispam solution but that is voted on by reports from my clients and I have done nothing to affect that.
Since you asked, I also used to spend time on Digitalpoint and V7N but left both of those forums due to ethical reasons as well, the ignoring of spammers and catching three of the moderators running scans respectively.
I have a VPS with Quickweb. I have leased two others from this blog as well but neither lease went longer than 4 days with one of those never even be able to be logged into. Both were cancelled at my request due to poor customer service on their part.
Happy? Want to know about my three PhDs too? Care to explain your relationship with these folks? Care to explain why you’re defending these folks? Or even why you’re wasting even more of our time?
I state publicly that all of the above is true to the best of my knowledge. If you want to know more, I have an about page on my blog.
That’s “…running scams…” by the way. Not scans.
Oh and I state that in no way am I in the VPS business. I lease out whole servers (None of those clients lease them out as VPSes but some do shared hosting) as well as offer shared hosting. Due to NDAs in place with some of the clients as well as certain legal concerns concerning my ex fiancee, I will not release the name of the company here or elsewhere in public.
I offered my services as a third party to help settle the matter.
+1, I want to know these answers too. Foobar seems to ignore the whole thread and target only users who are raising voice against this scam. Its like someone coming in and supporting Ben (of RackVM) when everybody knew he ran away with our money
We’ve had people like that here before. We’ll have them again.
Me? I’m trying to watch Thor and get some tickets done.
Damn, I made so many typos in that post.
“Francisco Dias” is my actual name, Fran is just a nickname I picked up when I was in school and carried it over ;)
Francisco
I’ve offered to reserve spots for a hand full of people, all from LEB. Cedr has the stock sites as a joke site to back our http://doesbuyvmhavestock.com site.
As the others stated, we aim to be a community just as much as we are a company. We do our best to be as transparent as we can in what we’re doing, so much so that many companies hang out in the channel hoping for a nugget of of what we’re working on next. We’re not oblivious to this fact and at times will give bad ideas to see who’s going to bite on it and run with it.
To date we’ve had 4 threads posted to LEB in a year come June. That’s not a very big amount and while LEB is a big reason why we’re doing well, Aldryic & I still take part in both communities even when there is no ‘benefit’ to us in doing so.
We all love this community and hate to see it get overrun by people that don’t deserve it.
Francisco
Drmike,
I see you’re back on LEB because you felt that you’ve needed attention … :) You really need to learn to control your own anger because you will always end up giving in and coming back.
Anyhow welcome back.
Foobar,
I hope you have proof to back up your claims, and I don’t think Francisco will be very happy once he sees this. Francisco runs a community centered host (just go to his IRC channel, all his clients are very close and involved with the pony spirit) and accusing people that they have a special relationship is not good. Clients that choose to be closely involved with the company (IRC Chat, etc) is nothing but a client that wants to get closer with their host… in fact I’d say what Francisco is offering, the personal touch, is something a lot of hosts don’t.
GO PONY! :D
– PenguinTux
People keep emailing me with “Did you see this garbage?”
Plus some of my clients are here viewing this site.
So you run a web host…. what is it?
You criticize my actions but show you haven’t read what I wrote. Nice going.
I already discussed that.
I think he mentioned it earlier in the post that he has some clients (personal ones e.g. his ex fiancee) and he lends/sells dedicated servers
@drmike can correct me if I am wrong
Exactly, BuyVM makes me feel at home, very quick support with that feeling as if its one big helping community :)
Drmike,
So you won’t release the company name .. ? That clearly shows you must have a bad rep online or you have something to hide as you feel it might hinder your rep here on LEB/LET… there’s nothing wrong with disclosing it since you’re a valued contributor here… so you must have something to hide.
Dude, what part of NDA do you not understand? I’ve explained why up above. If you don’t understand the legal system, that’s not my fault.
By the way, where’s your criticism of Nordicvps not releasing their information?
And please stop wasting my time. There are other things going on in the background here that is not public.
You mention that its dedicated/shared clients (not VPS), yet you say your clients have been emailing you about NordicVPS thread on LEB.
Mind explaining why they would be on lowendbox (mainly a VPS site) yet you said they are dedicated/shared clients?
NordicVPS doesn’t have to release their company information, you are acting like you are the boss and moderator of the whole hosting industry… you are in no position to make them *force* to release their company documents. Why did you want someone to pass it on to WHT if he was already responding here on LEB? You actually think WHT will ban them unless they don’t release it? Lol… that’s considered confidential to some people in some eyes I highly doubt that. Yes, I feel they should to clear up the air (and that would personally be best PR wise), but they don’t have to. And you make it sound like he has to otherwise hes out of the industry… lol ;-)
@PenguinTux
You previously stated that you know drmike for his contributions to this community but you do not know that he is a hobbyist? He tries out LEB. He has (correct me @drmike if I am wrong) one VPS for billing software/support, using some others for DNS etc (http://www.lowendtalk.com/questions/6248/which-dns-service-do-you-use?page=1#6281)
DrMike’s NDA is different from NordicVPS situation where Nordic only needed to show the PO (Purchase Order) showing the date (not the amount etc) of when they ordered there drives. This has absolutely no effect on there business but would end this thread AND put confidence in both new and old customers.
P.S. I dont know @drmike apart from LET/LEB. He is not my cousin or relative or something like that.
Dang, I thought you were my long lost Uncle Asim. You know, the one the family doesn’t talk about. Went off and joined that hippy cult back in the 90’s. :)
Pretty interesting this thread…
Yup, better than watching tele..
No doubt about it :)
I am going to stick up a little bit here for Nordic. If they were true “scammers” they could have just taken the money and run (certainly by now).
They haven’t, yes the whole situation stinks and they obviously need to either get people what they paid for in Fremont and if they can’t do that they should look at refunding users.
Instead they obviously think that they can resolve the problem and have offered a free vps in the mean time albeit not geographically in a great location for some but it is free.
My argument here is there are not the actions of “scammers”, I think labeling them “scammers” is a bit harsh and will be detrimental to their business which is going to help no-one you or them. Poor customer service, absolutely but scammers?
I have to agree, I personally think their customer service/support sucks and i would never consider hosting with them. But if they were scammers, they would be running away with your money and not paying their server bills already and run off without any explanation.
Agreed. We cannot call them scammers. Their support is pretty bad (especially when there is an incident) but they have a lot to explain for instance why they are not provisioning older yearly customers and asking LEA to post a new thread for new customers? Not OK!
LEA posts good and bad hosts. Hey we all need drama here and there don’t we.. to lighten up the blog as well ;-)
Anyone smart enough would simply read the comments and not purchase.
@Asim Zeeshan,
Yes, he is a valued contributor here. If you actually bother to read my claims, you will understand. He claims his clients are dedicated/shared clients yet they are on LEB and emailing him telling him ‘Did you see this garbage?’
I think he is a good contributor yes, but he thinks he is the master/king of the entire industry.
May be his clients are both shared and dedicated? may be they are VPS-collectors like me and use them for lab-type-testing code? who knows!
I would disagree that drmike thinks he is the master/king of the entire industry because he would not have been posting these questions on LET
http://www.lowendtalk.com/questions/7385/my-really-dumb-question-for-the-day
http://www.lowendtalk.com/questions/7092/svn-commit-an-existing-site
Would you start stating that I am master of the industry? I hope not. Its just common sense that many people here felt that NordicVPS did a bad move and @drmike was just trying to help them out by getting proof from NordicVPS and putting an end to this long thread.
Please note that neither me, nor drmike nor Francisco or others who posted here have nothing better to do. We all have our priorities etc especially on weekend. So lets discuss something positive and stop pointing fingers at everybody.
He is forcing nordicVPS to post such confidential documents (some might say its confidential, some will say its not), and basically saying ‘GTFO the industry if you don’t post it’
He even said someone pass it on to WHT yet Nordic was already replying here on LEB ? What does he think WHT can do anyway? And why doesn’t he just post it himself! He must be banned off WHT for a reason.
Dude, read what I wrote. Second request. At no time, did I say post, I said provide. I think I’ve covered that as well.
I already stated why I was banned from WHT. Please stop making up stories.
Let’s be honest. You don’t think I could create another account on WHT if I wanted to? Take under a minute. For some of us, ethics are important.
And no I don;t think I’m the king of hosting. If I did, I wouldn’t express myself as running a “semi-professional webhost” as I have done in the past.
God, there are some real dumb fucks around here.
@PenguinTux
Do you actually read anything? Have you read every comment in this blog? I dont think so. I am not paid to be an advocate for @drmike nor he or anyone else who is following this thread wants me to be because its simply TRASHING EVERYONE’S INBOX with junk questions
Go read this
http://www.lowendbox.com/blog/nordicvps-7-768mb-openvz-vps-in-us-uk-and-germany/#comment-32398
How do you propose to put an end to this thread and restore NordicVPS’s reputation? Everyone in this thread would agree (except you and NordicVPS themselves) that what @drmike proposed was the only logical end to this thread.
A PERSONAL REQUEST: PLEASE READ THE COMMENTS ABOVE FOR ANY QUESTION THAT YOU MAY HAVE IN FUTURE TO AVOID DUPLICATES. I MAY NOT BE ABLE TO REPLY FROM NOW ON BECAUSE IT HAS ALREADY WASTED ONE WHOLE HOUR OF MY SUNDAY EVENING.
Drmike,
Good job cursing …. I suggest some anger management classes :)
Asim,
I wouldnt be surprised if drmike is asking you to support him here, you clearly have some sort of relationship with him because you keep mentioning you have no affiliation with him ;)
All the power to you!
I have nothing more to say, I can see your IQ level. All the best for your real life :)
Penguin your obviously nothing more then a troll.
You’ve been prejudice and now your having a trolling season about everyone? Are you married to NordicVPS or something
I am not supporting NordicVPS… I have the right to state my personal opinions here. As stated I would never touch NordicVPS with a 10 feet pole but I Wouldn’t call them scammers.
Asim, My IQ level is actually substantially higher than yours ;-)
>I have the right to state my personal opinions here.
Actually no you don’t. This is LEA’s site, not yours. None of us have rights here.
Thanks for proving my point.
Yes I do per the freedom of speech act.
Also are you going to make up your mind: Leave LEB or Stay in LEB? Haha, I can’t believe you were stupid enough to transfer 2k rep points because you were angry at the moment… and now you’re crying coming back here ROFL
Oh god….
Freedom of Speech is dealing with governments, not private websites. If it did relate to private enterprise, we would have had to unblock all these spammers we were blocking with Spam Assassin and other tools.
Read and learn: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech
And I believe you mean the right of Freedom of Speech. It wasn’t an act. *sigh*
So are you going to answer my question?
Or are you still trying to deflect it? It’s very obvious :)
Dude, you have no right to complain about people not answering questions when you choose not to do so either:
http://www.lowendbox.com/blog/nordicvps-7-768mb-openvz-vps-in-us-uk-and-germany/#comment-32413
I ask again. What’s your connection to all of this?
And thanks for ignoring the fact that you were proved to be wrong yet again.
Seriously Penguin, grow the fuck up. Your IQ is lower then that of a fried pastie!
Nope, you actually had to swear to me to get your point across (which is invalid) which clearly means that I win, thank you and good game :)
So are you answering my question or not, are you staying at LEB or not?
I didn’t swear at you. I made an opinion of the intelligence of some of the users here. You’re the one who made the connection between what I said and yourself.
And you still haven’t answered any of my questions so I’m not going to trouble myself with answering any of yours.
Hello,
You’re clearly upset which proves that you’re in the wrong here.
You had to swear (do you not remember the posts you make) at me earlier which proves you require anger management …
I have answered all of your questions clearly and you haven’t answered mine. I have a feeling you’re lying about the type of clients you have. You claim dedicated/shared clients yet they are still on LEB. If that is true (which I highly doubt), I hope they can see how unprofessional you are being here.
Mike has never posted a sale on LEB and has no interest in doing so, he’s here simply for the community.
Francisco
Francisco,
That is not my point, he claims his clients are here emailing him saying “Did you see this garbage” yet he claims his clients are shared/dedicated clients only (not VPS).
You may want to review what I wrote. I never said my clients were emailing me. I said people meaning the people from this board.
Please kindly point at a single occurrence where you answered a question of mine.
The link didn’t take:
http://www.lowendbox.com/blog/nordicvps-7-768mb-openvz-vps-in-us-uk-and-germany/#comment-32403
I think I will just add some of my thoughts here on this topic.
First, disclaimer: I have 2 BuyVM boxes and no NordicVPS box and therefore was not affected at all when Nordic shut off their nodes.
Secondly, I do not know Francisco personally, so I am not going to give him the benefit of doubt, and let’s just assume he is saying all these “nasty” comments because he wants to drive NordicVPS out of business so that he has one less competitors in the business.
I am going to further assume that drmike and Francisco are somewhat related, since I can not prove that they are not.
The question is: so what?
I have read through the entire thread here and at no time was Francisco nor drmike made a single reply based on any groundless assumptions, they make reasonable assumptions based on facts that we have all seen and regardless of what the underlying motivations are, those facts are beyond any dispute (and that is why I see most of the replies in the other camp are focusing more on discredit Francisco/drmike).
If NordicVPS provide cheap VPS with little downtime and great services, I am pretty sure this discussion won’t even be here and if Francisco/drmike ever makes any negative comment about NordicVPS, I am pretty sure lots of the LEB community members will jump out and call him a liar.
The key is, they did not.
They failed miserably, and they failed without admitting they failed, just to make the matter even worse, which provide an “opportunity” to let Francisco/drmike making negative comments about them.
We are living in a real business world here, gentlemen. Has anyone ever pitied Enron when they failed and claim that it was just “a stupid mistake made by a few stupid accountants?” or has anyone ever pitied the ex-president of IMF and call him “a great leader but just gets horny once a while”?
Like it or not, it could take you 10 years to build a reputation in a business and it only takes one mistake + 10 seconds to ruin it. You give your opponent an opportunity to attack you, so don’t blame your opponents for taking the opportunity.
Obviously, if today BuyVM has a few of their 128MB nodes down for a month and yet offer a great sale to their 512MB boxes, I would highly doubt they will receive less number of negative comments than Nordic, and if Nordic could recover all the 128MB boxes without any problem right now and provide great services from now on, these comments will be forgotten very soon.
Unfortunately (or fortunately), both are unlikely to happen at this point.
So my suggestion is: if you are supporting NordicVPS for whatever purposes, keep your mouth shut for now since there is really nothing to support them, if they could stand up again like a real man, then you can talk about how great they are.
And for Francisco/drmike: facts will tell everything, I highly doubt anyone would want to buy another VPS from Nordic at this point on, after reading all these comments, so there is really no point wasting your time with the clowns, I am sure your time could be better utilized in, say, make BuyVM/LowEndTalk even better :)
@drmike: It is your personal decision to stay on LEB or not and I believe the community will respect your decision either way. However, I just want to say that in a war, the last worrier standing wins. If you want to prove that you are on the right side of the camp, the best solution is not to run but to be here and prove to those who are against you that their effort to build some reputation for Nordic is really just a waste of time.
To expand on your point, I only ever started voicing myself in the nordic threads once they started the sleezy stuff. I heald off for quite a long time until it got to the point of being abusive.
And thanks :) Nordic isn’t our competition. At this point our only competition is ourselves since we simply can’t keep enough stock.
Francisco
That is another good point Francisco, I do not see BuyVM needs to compete with Nordic when they can’t even bring the VPS box online and have no intention to offer any additional stock, so I am pretty sure even if you are an extremely aggressive person who just want to drive competitors out of business (which I definitely do not think so), you will have better competitors to take upon.
Well said. Thank you for your time in putting together your thoughts and posting them on LEB
>I highly doubt anyone would want to buy another VPS from Nordic at this point on
They did:
http://www.lowendtalk.com/questions/8019/about-nordicvpswhat-time-can-vps-server-opened
Everyone knows smoking is not good for your health, but yet it does not prevent people from smoking. I see that as a personal choice, may be for what he needs, a month of downtime is acceptable and he can’t care with a lying owner as long as the box is cheap.
Or he might have signed up the moment he saw the price tag, and if that were to be the case, he should use this opportunity to learn to read reviews before making transactions online.
I can definitely see you are a good person, drmike, however the reality is some people just don’t learn until they hit the wall, so for those people, the best way to help them is to let them hit the wall once a while :)
>I am going to further assume that drmike and Francisco are somewhat related
I discussed that previously. I do hope you’ve just missed that and are not calling me a lair.
@drmike: I have read through it and I know you are not affiliated with BuyVM, but those who accuse you don’t think so. And my argument is that even assume everything they have said is valid (give them the benefit of doubt), they still can’t prove anything and change the fact that Nordic has done something despicable at best, hence there is really no point for them to argue against you or Francisco on this matter :)
I only have a question about this:
Why “Francisco Dias”? xDDDD
Here in Mexico “Diaz” is a common last name, also “Francisco” is very common. But “Dias” seems to be an last name used in.. Spain? Or another country maybe :P
Portugal ;)
Francisco
I was near…. :P
Lipizzaner, Lusitano, Sorraia, Garrano, Galiceno, Iberian, we are ponies ;)
Drmike,
Yes… continue to be upset :)
You clearly said:
“People keep emailing me with “Did you see this garbage?”
Plus some of my clients are here viewing this site.”
And yes, I have answered all of your questions in a timely fashion. Now the spotlight is on YOU, are YOU going to answer my question? You staying in LEB/LET or not?
Stop digging one’s privacy and/or preference, there’s no benefit for the community even if you managed to do so. I’d say you should use your persistence in telling Nordic to fix the lost server.
I have to admit that drmike choice of words are a bit too blunt sometime though (ie: “In other words, put up or shut up”; “Then you’re a lair and a fraud.”; “there are some real dumb fucks around here”), some people maybe don’t like that (get offended) and turns it into a personal battle and sadly drmike also feed that..
Why should ever he or anyone not stay? lol, these people are careless at best, and EVERYTHING said by anyone AGAINST them should be correct. They deserve more actually I believe.
BTW, I’m just a regular visitor here, I do not have ANY relation with anyone here OR in LET OR even in WHT, so far.
I read through comments and have to make it clear, b4 you jump on me:- NO, I DON’T THINK I’M “the master/king of the entire industry”. Thanks all!
Probably the most dramatic thing ever for a small priced low end VPS that a provider has had months worth of trouble.
And no one’s on topic of the idea that its NordicVPS and not “Who emailed who.”
Most dramatic thing for a VPS system ever here… Lol.
wow what’s the commotion here? can someone give me a summary? haven’t been in this side of the web for quite a while :)
It appears Dr.Mike is trying to get NordicVPS to tell the truth (for once) and PenguinTux is just being a troll and dating Nordic in bed.
DING DING DING! We have a winner :)
What is the truth?
Daniel where did you get the impression that am on Nordic’s side? Even a few members agreed with me here, I simply said we shouldn’t call them scammers as he is still responding and didn’t completely run away, but at the same time I mentioned I would NEVER consider using their service, EVER. So if it’s anyone being a troll here it’s you… You are simply trying to beat around the bush here because in a previous thread I said you were 16. ;)
Your acting like a ass as many have said. Nordic is pretty much only responding to comments that he can respond to without admitting hes a fraudster and ways he can get more $$$$$$$$$$.
If you actually bother to read and scroll up, you’ll see a few agree with me in regards to not calling Nordic scammers but to agree that they have horrible support.
Someone I’d call a scammer would RackVm that ran without any signs, explanation or refunds. Nordic is at least replying here and providing service (granted a node or two may be down).
Patrick from Garman handled it well though and I wish RackVm handled it like he did.
Your obsession with dr. mike is amazing. It seems like you try to do with nordicvps thread your private personal related show which try to turn public from real nordicvps related problems.
If there would be posability I would suggest you to go to private messages with him but as this isn’t option here I would like to kindly ask you to stop your offtopic irrelevant personal related trolling which don’t contribute to anything. Who cares how much do you love mike, daniel or anyone here. It’s your private issue which has nothing to do with nordicvps incompetence to deliver service which people pay for.
Hmm so selling a service then having it go offline without any notice forever is not scamming? [sarcasm]I must go back and learn what scamming is then. [/sarcasm]
Why must everything you do bring out negative sides of things? Age doesn’t matter much anymore (Only in drinking and love). I think in all honesty you need to get over this whole age thing.
Hey, Sean, disguise with other name won’t solve anything.
What do you think happened to NordicVPS and their nodes?
I personally think trial servers. As I don’t believe (correct me if I’m wrong) they were up for at least a month. They just went down and never to be seen online since.
Yes Spirit, continue to be upset… continue to be upset :)
Better advice, Spirit: just ignore this Penguin. He’s obviously just trying to fill his time up by seeing how long he can keep people reacting to being poked and annoyed. So just stop paying attention to him.
Who are you? … Did drmike tell you to come here and support him?
drmike probably got kicked/banned from the Library/internet cafe and called for help :)
Who are you and why do you keep trying to change the topic?
NordicVPS – their offer – past experiences – would you recommend them and why – would you advise people to stay away from them and why – what do you generally think about them …
Lots of possible topics, and drmike is not one of them.
Are you in any way affiliated with NordicVPS? Or do you have something against drmike personally? Or you’re just trolling?
I think hes jelous that people respect DrMike.
If this was a forum thread I would suggest that it is time to lock it.
I think there is enough information in here for people to make informed decisions
about purchasing from Nordic or not.
Bickering is just clouding things ;0
You guys are drmike Under a fake alias. Yes continue to be upset because haters are going to hate. Once again I said I would never touch or recommend Nordic.
Can’t be. I have a regularly scheduled EKG with brain and heart on Mondays that lasts most of the day. I believe I’ve mentioned that a couple of times now.
Anyone else find it ironic that PenguinTux is calling into question who others are but yet when we ask him or her to come clean, he or she changes the subject?
LEA, you going to ban this troll any time soon?
If anyone that should be banned it should be YOU and Daniel. Now it looks like you’re asking from something from Lowendadmin… yet you told him “your time was better spent elsewhere.” You pretty much told him “**** off, I’m going somewhere else”, before we knew it a day later you came back seeking some attention.
*YAWN* You bore me. Thanks though for proving our point yet again. Can’t even copy and paste right.
And if I really wanted folks here to post for me, don’t you think I would drag up more than just a couple?
do you have a mental disorder or something? sorry if i’m being rude, but please stop trolling here.
@doc, I agree with Joe Merit here – “Bickering is just clouding things”, so lets try to ignore this offtopic troll. It’s no use… while our nordick vpses are still down because unknown reason. And yes of course that nordickVPS guy lie. If there would be only some gear malfunction this wouldn’t require NEW IPs again. Some month ago when our vpses vanished he said that we will get new IPs if I remember correct.
Hi all,
Sorry I haven’t been tracking comments on this post. A quick glance shows that part of it has gone off-topic. Here are some opinions before I close the post from commenting:
– Yes I was giving benefit of doubt to NordicVPS and therefore this offer was posted.
– Making your point known is one thing. But trolling, making base-less accusation, and personal attacks are something else. Do unto others as you would have others do unto you. Yes, even on the Internet.
– It’s pretty clear what Sean/Adam/NordicVPS’s reputation is here on LowEndBox. I will not post any offer from them until it sorts itself out and I can see positive changes from blogosphere and web hosting forums.