IPAP.co emailed me this last week. “After a lot of time working NOW we are offering new VPS service which will beat lot of providers.” Their new service? Super VPS, and you get 3 hosting plans to choose from. Huge. Giant, or MONSTER. “Huge” would be their “low end” range, at $6.99/month and it has the following specification:
- 2GB guaranteed/4GB burstable memory
- 250GB storage
- 1Gbps unmetered bandwidth (but capped at 10Mbps after 10TB of usage until the month ends, or $3/1TB on 1Gbps)
- 2 IP addresses
- OpenVZ/vePortal
That thing has more memory and disk space than all my low end boxes combined. Servers with Hetzner in Germany. They are using Core i7 x980 boxes (6 core, 12 hyper threads) with 6x 2TB RAID. Automated setup. Do check their ToS and do note that they don’t normally refund, before you sign up and take advantage the bandwidth. Their about page is still under construction, although according to IPAP.co Admin, they have “offices” in quite a few countries. However their WHOIS record is completely bogus — with privacy protection turned on, having an address in Australia but a phone number in Denmark. Domain was only registered in January this year. I just feel it’s a bit dubious to have so many “offices” yet they have no presence on WHT, and so far only a nameless “IPAP Co Admin” been commenting on LowEndBox. Previous post has over 400 comments so you might want to see how IPAP Co Admin responded to people’s inquires. Or if you don’t have time reading through all the comments, I am sure heaps of people will start chiming in about their experiences.
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oh 250G haha 250 where is test ip for EU
That remembers me….
My
oversellerhostHAHA!
What’s your problem with myresellerhost? I have two VPS with them running for more than a half year with a decent perormance and almost no downtime.
Haha, you xD But me…
– Long delay support
– Disk overselled, 250GB? Nah, It was just decreasing more and more (< 100GB)
– Funny answers from support (This was the worst).
– And finally, a cancellation before the end of the cycle. Support answer? A joke. They are… a joke.
Feel sorry for you. I know they are overselling the HDD however I don’t use tons of data(under 100 GB) so it does not really matter for me.
Not, me too, I was using 250MB of disk (yes, 250MB). But if they promise 250GB, you must have always 250GB. In any moment I can decide to put a 248GB file filled with zeroes and then?? Disk full? That isn’t ok. Unethical company.
Worst provider EVER !
I had 15 days of continious downtime.
They didn’t even refund me, what a scam !
Hey, I have 30 days of downtime, completely unusable, ticket even sent to CEO
Yes it went dark
Wow, Its a monster VPS, wonders what kind of network / IO I can get on this :P
“Out of Stock” Already? :O
Ha. I have this in draft for a while. Maybe I posted it too late? But IPAP Co Admin promised me that “Currently we have about 20 hardware nodes for these new VPS Packages”, and “we will add about 50 Stock avaiabity every week for each VPS Plan” so don’t you worry! :)
Buy Now link not working!
Why give the scam artists a check list to go by? :)
Francisco
Weird how the other 2 plans are in stock :)
And do i detect overselling..
I detect underselling.
at 8.3 MB/s IO, I think its oversold. Why you think its undersold?
@Asim – You should be asking how they got 6 2TB drives in a chassis when hetzner only allows 4 drives @ 1.5TB each :)
Francisco
Honestly I would like to know as well, since we asked Hetzner for 8 x 1.5 HDD in Hardware RAID and it was not possible.
@Francisco, I sometimes wonder you know so much about datacenters and such, why dont you post all about it at someplace called allaboutdatacenters.com, so that these hosts dont leave traces like these for us to catch :P :D
Nice info, thanks :)
Why give the scam artists a checklist to go by? :)
My knowledge is from me doing constant research on countless locations.
Francisco
So we have two confirmed personal experiences. I bet IPap wont come explaining this up.
I was being sarcastic.
@Francisco Dias
Maybe they colo?
@Danial
Seems like they might. From an email I got from them announcing these new packages:
“These servers are located on our private racks in hetzner.”
Highly doubt it given the pricing they have on racks on hetzner.
http://www.hetzner.de/en/hosting/produkte_colocation/rack
At just 10A usable they could only fit a couple of these 980’s on there as they’re incredibly power hungry (at least 125W)
Check the BW costs as well :)
Francisco
@Francisco, maybe they’re come from oil rich country (UAE). :P
Wish I was only paying $280 (199 Euros) a month for my racks.
That is a big damn rack though at 49Us. Largest I’ve ever seen has been 44.
Could be UAE.
myipap.com?
In stock and good offer but I posted a sales ticket that is still unanswered. That says a lot about what kind of support I would get so I’ll pass
What’s funny is that on a 1Gbit port Hetzner only includes 10TB with the whole server and requires you pay out the ass for more or agree to remove the abusive resource. When you get limited the port gets perm capped to 10Mbit/sec. as well.
Funny to say the least :)
Francisco
Thanks for sharing Fran, if that really is the case, a couple of VPSes using it to rsync etc MAY bring down the whole node to 10Mbit/sec
LOL @ “new VPS service which will beat lot of providers”
You can read hetzner’s breakdown on their page.
I’m fairly sure nordic ran into the speed caps and that’s why they took ages to complete all of the work in Germany a few months ago.
Francisco
We can give the benefit of the doubt… maybe this are custom plans, or something.
Nah, it’s hetzner.
Their whole business model is based off these fixed plans/rules.
Francisco
It wouldn’t be first time that some LEB featured host experienced this with Hetzner. Some people here around still remember SPACERICH host.
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=936110
According tho the Geekbench stuff below, this is exactly the EQ10 plan, 5TB, and then 10mbps or 6.90/TB on 100mbps
Maybe they based their specs on older terms. Hetzner used to reduce the network speed to 10Mbit after X TB and automatically switch back to 100Mbit at the start of the next month. They changed it to a permanent cap a while ago.
Purchased one of these a week ago. It is really responsive compared to other VPS’s I have.
The CPU is an Intel Core i7 980X.
The network is really fast.
Disk IO was good at first (~75MB/s) but is quite bad right now:
Maybe just too many people benchmarking at once? :D
Nah, I/O sucks… sure
Keep use updated with how I/O changes day to day. Thank Kuro.
I just opened a ticket with them. About 4 minutes to first reply, and about 10 minutes after initially opening the ticket, it seems to be fixed. :D
You should try longer than 512 as you’re likely within any sort of cache at just 34MB.
Try 8k for a better idea.
Francisco
Nice catch Francisco, I simply didn’t bother retyping the command in. I was using 512 earlier as to not rape the drives anymore than it already was.
I never thought IPAP would be featured here again, LEA.
buy now link won’t work.
I’m pretty sure I have that template somewhere on my PC ( So it’s a free template ).
Plan seems to good to be true, I’ll wait for now – I’m in no need for more hosting risk.
I’m a bit skeptical :S
I wonder how the user_beancounters looks like.
Still with this provider and needless to say, forget the Super(low)IO VPS. it sounds entirely oversold.
However i was on a Nitros Server by FDC and my IO was at about 150Mb/s and was really nice.
I no longer need that server as i downgraded to a VDS (imo better then SuperVPS) BUT the system setup has been over 14 days to set up.
In addition, if you order a Windows Nitros Mini, you cannot go above 4GB in RAM, its been over 50 days since i have been waiting for a 4GB RAM increase that i paid for.
overall: servers good (nitros/vds only), support: VERY slow, hard to understand (and sometimes they will mix your ticket with another client and youll get an odd answer! i was talking about server credit and while i got my answer 4 minutes later i got an answer about a cpanel question, i dont use cpanel here!).
Support is entirely lacking. Delivery is automatic for SuperVPS but ANY other VPS/Dedi system, it will take 10-40 days if your lucky. Seriously.
BTW, support/sales/billing is lacking so much that my Nitros Server took 18 days to cancel after I stopped paying for it. ;)
when restock?
In stock now. Go ahead! :)
I don’t trust them because there previous Scranton VPS deal was not good.
Support was fast but the discount wasn’t recurring as promised. Server was very slow (response time too long).
Any more benchmarks? geek bench preferred.
Someone who purchased this should just send Hetzner the IP address and ask if it’s a colo client or not. (If it’s not this offer should surely be removed.)
Like everyone on here I am very suspicious of this offer… so I bought one.
The IP address logged at the bottom of the order page was completely wrong, and the paypal account is a gmail address :(
So far so good
So far pleasantly surprised but will see what things are like at the end of the month, once a few more people have signed up.
Keep us updated, thanks for sharing
They have no idea how to set up cloudflare. They yelled at someone for using a “proxy” the last post because they didn’t install mod_cloudflare or parse x-forwarded-for.
Incompetent and hilarious. And non-SSL proxying a billing page through a free provider.
Geek bench as per request:
1337 vps? :O
The beancounters? not sure if this is what you need..
The benchmark result is really good, hope they can stand long :P
Fix your links :) They all broken in the top navigation
Thank you. I got some problem with the database, but it gone :D
Looks good think I’ll order…
…oh, wait, I can’t because I’m a fraudster for requesting a refund on an undelivered dedicated server.
Customer service from hell—be warned.
In their defense, they did finally kick out a half decent ToS.
Of course that was over a year after being told what they had was null and void because of all of the mistakes in it.
I don’t understand how that is relevant.
I was being sarcastic and commenting on their poor customer relations.
They resell VolumeDrive.
Currently? It was the previous offer but now? VolumeDrive has their servers in Scranton PA, USA not in EU and VolumeDrive isn’t Hetzner as I know…
They resell VolumeDrives dedis
Just bought one, immediate setup, very nice CPU ,Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU X 980 @ 3.33GHz, 12 cores
Nothing about this provider inspires confidence. I certainly wouldn’t host anything critical with them.
….but just for the craic, I got the “SUPERVPS GIANT” @ $14.99 / £9 APPROX.
Provisioned in a few minutes. Server is with Hetzner.
PayPal payment was to a one Grzegorz Dzien.
If you google Grzegorz Dzien you can get his CV.
Redhat certified engineer, current employer IBM GS Integrated Delivery Center, Brno 2nd Level Linux/UNIX Administrator Administration of Linux and AIX based Servers. Working in a big production environment, responsible for managing servers stability and availability of servers.
Linked in profile matches the CV.
But that could all be fake.
http://www.fazaha.com/
privacyprotect whois
Also traceable to Volumedrive, as is http://www.ipap.co (173.242.117.176)
i’m more curious about this one
sorry, i hit post comment before finished my word.
just my curiosity, is it legal “exporting” US technology to Iran? i don’t know anything about US law/embargo/sanction etc.
Sounds like volumedrive have some explaining to do…
More like anyone in their US locations better have good backups because those boxes are going to go poof if the feds find out.
Francisco
Not necessary. As someone above said “PayPal payment was to a one Grzegorz Dzien” – .cz/EU and this what’s also pasted isn’t ARIN but RIPE whois info which MAKES DIFFERENCE as .us legislation isn’t world legislation.
I mean.. it’s very likely that servers are rented by this Grzegorz Dzien from EU and .us have no autority over him even if real company owner really come from Iran.
Iran -> EU -> US
(but that’s just guessing of course)
It’s the US, they can do whatever they want if they feel so.
Francisco
Sure but your answer is generalization. If server is rented by someone from EU not Iran it’s not very likely that it will go because .us gov that easily like it’s introduced here.
Beside that where are hosted customers here? Volumedrive or Hetzner?
I don’t care for Ipap neither try to defend them, I just want to bring some more realistic picture to some posts above.
These are in Germany and as far as I know Germany doesn’t have any sanctions against such clients.
Francisco
Germany blocks some outbound sites from their residents though. I know with my VPS in Germany, I can’t view some sites.
Not sure if that would be an issue though. I can see emails maybe being blocked.
Really? That’s new to me. My experience with german LEB featured hosts (syscentral, vps4less, welcome2inter..) is above average and I am really curious regarding this. Can you give me some such blocked url to check it from my .de vpses please?
Better not host ANYTHING with them, I’m not from US BTW! But I didn’t expect this provider being Iran based. This simply means I can’t trust that anymore (I already thought the offer is unrealistic, but now that thought becomes 10x). Sorry! Hetzner is a good DC, but there are many budget providers who has reasonable and realistic packages at same DC.
I mean, 250 GB AND 2 GB RAM both in one package???!?! fine!!!
How about bandwidth? 10TB? WTF? !!!
CPU anybody??? Geekbench 11337 ?!?!????????? WTH? That is around 5 budget VPSs.
Sorry, this can’t be, and will suffer in the near future. Or there is something isn’t correct with that (understand it the way you like)!!!
And I thought to order this and replace a VPS of mine, it looks too good no doubt, but unrealistic!!
What makes you not trust Iranians? The people there are no different than the people anywhere else.
The problem isn’t them, it’s that the USA govt. doesn’t allow businesses to have such clients or they stand to get in serious trouble :)
Francisco
I don’t trust (or like) that regime yes, but not the people at all, surprisingly I actually have few close friends, from there.
How comes I have similar package with a very cheap (if not the cheapest) budget provider, at same datacenter, and almost SAME price. But having around 20-25% of that specifications?! And 1 IP not 2! :]
I’m concerned about their government, which is apperantly trying to disconnect the country from the Internet. We would lose contact with this provider.
We have already established that the servers are in Germany, the guy how is receiving the money is most likely in the Czech Republic and the domain is registered through somewhere in Australia, only the IP addresses are registered to an Iranian (at an address that probably does not exist).
I find it very unlikely that either the US or Iran could block servers hosted in Germany. The most likely causes for loosing contact with this provider are:
A) They disappear with our money
B) Hetzner/RIPE take back the IP addresses for providing what looks like falsified information.
I will say it again, it looks too good to be true and probably is but so far they have delivered what I paid for (support has been pretty poor though, iptables does not support nat at the moment). I certainly will not be putting anything important on that server though.
HEllo
IPAP Owners Are not in Iran dude they ARE not :)
;)
Grzegorz is in Poland
and He is working in IBM :)
I am in UAE
SAmira is IN UAE
another One is in Canada :)
IS there any problem we wanna have market in IRan?
however we did not ;)
We have an Exchanger office(changinging moneys) there ;)
Bullshit talk about business being based in Iran.
Does anyone know who owns sites like cinfu? It could be Iranian based.
Plenty of hosts on LEB and WHT with hidden WHOIS and no contact information page and no actual business registration information.
I wonder why they are not responding here to clear things up…hmm
It is a little strange. They are also not responding to support tickets properly, I opened one because their kernel does not support nat, they closed it within minutes saying it would be sorted last night.
That did not happen so I re-opened it and they just changed it to in progress. That was about 6 hours ago.
Think I will be cancelling very soon as I am afraid to use it, it just does not seem financially viable.
Yea…if they are not going to come up with a response until Sunday or so, I will just ask for a refund.
If they wont refund, I guess charge back it is
WHat ticket did not get responded?!
Please review the previous threads. Every time they are shown that they have an issue or a problem, they would rather attack those pointing it out instead of dealing with it. They don’t see their “issues” as what they are.
At least they were responding to criticism last time. For this “Super VPS” package, they actually wrote to me on 9th, 12th, 14th, 15th and 16th this month asking when can their package be listed. However they have exactly NIL comment from “IPAC Co Admin” this time in this post so far…
Maybe they have already disconnected Internet there?
Responding – yes.
Dealing with and resolving issues and concerns – no.
wow i taken one at night when bank was closed, and woke up, gone to bank to put money, trying to pay and i see they removed that invoce, and now it’s out of stock ….
I have a dedi with them. THe service isnt really good.
First, it took me 20 days for them to deliver it, by that time it was written that it would take 3 to 4 business days ro deliver. Today it is written 3 to 5, and 3 to 14 days, in the same page, means they dint give a shit for what they write on their webpage, and they really dint care, nor even try to follow what is written there.
Second, the internet speeds are awfull. I mean, really awfull. If the conection is to inside the US, it is pretty good, having 50mb/s, but if you step to any country outside US, the conection speed drops to 5mb/s, on the best countries, some countries like russia, brazil, japan etc you have 1mb/s sometimes 500kbps. If you open a ticket with them, they will say everything is ok, and they will close your ticket.
Third, they delivered me a different CPU then the one I hired. Just like that, it was written a CPU model when I hired it, they delivered me another one, with inferior clock. I opnened a ticket, and they said it was a different CPU, and as sometimes there isnt that model on the market, they can deliver any crap they want. After taht, they changed the webpage of the product, putting this new CPU. My ticket is still opened, they close it at random times, without proper answer at all. They keep postponing the solution, and want me to just forget about it.
Finally their support is lame, I never asked anything dificult, a OS change took them a week to do. The support just cant read what you write on your tickets, probably some of them cant speak/write in english at all. You can write your ticket, they will not understand it at all. Also they will respond in the shortest an meaningless way possible, just ignoring anything you write. Sometimes you cant even understand what their employees meant.
Any documentation on their page is meaningless, even if they are wrong, going against their own documentation, they will ignore or change the documentation.
The service is cheap, but not worth of your money. If you want a dedi, find one at webtropia or server4you. 10 dollars more expensive, but they will not fool you.
hmmm and not one single comment from them on this post/thread?
specs too good to be true.
i’ll stick to american companies. (currently with databasebydesignllc and advantagecom.net/simplywebhosting)
Feels like the website is owned by a uneducated kiddie who takes 0 responsibility for his actions.
I’m going for semoweb 100gb offer, at least it will not be gone after a month.
100gb for each vps? Semoweb must have some massive dedicated servers with 2tb in raid5.
Adman, no idea, but I have yet to see a complain of someone not getting what he paid from them.
Hello,
first of all we can not take a look at all of these comment , any one having any specific question , should bring it to our ticket system ,
but to sum up :
1 – SuperVPS is not oversold
2 – One server has IO problem because of 3ware raid controller which can not be changed to adaptec because it will cause 24 hours downtime AT LEAST
3 – curretnly 40 servers are full!
4 – We will change all legacy VPSs to new superVPS line soon
5 – TO LowEndAdmin , We do not have ANY address in Aurtallia and our phone number is not in Denmark! from where you say this i like to know!
6 – IPAP is registered in January but our company is working form 2006 i really do not want to explain eveything for 100000000000 times!
7 – We have Offices in 4 countries at the moment but only 1 office is for IPAP others are not for IPAP , for example we do have a office in Canada but it is for interior design , we do business in MANY things , and we are in hosting for at least 5 years
8 – we can choose one : Either write comments here OR work on servers to make customers Happy ;)
9 – Thank you any way!
10 – WE ARE NOT IRAN BASED , we have a Exchange office their and we use that to get around HETZNER’s VAT! :)
>5 – TO LowEndAdmin , We do not have ANY address in Aurtallia and our phone number is not in Denmark! from where you say this i like to know!
http://whois.domaintools.com/ipap.co
Australian address provided by PrivacyProtect.org
that is correct
And Now let’s get Iranian … cleared :
We are not Iran based AT ALL , our main office ETC is in Turkey and Dubai , but we do have an office(not for hosting) in iran that exchanges money there :)
However , for IPAP ,
we do hae 6 Active Staff , 2 Level 1 and 4 Level 2 support mainly for Shared Hosting species!
Names Are :
Vignesh,
Girish
Ashok
Arun
Iderjit
rom
they are indian based ,
Grzegorz Dzien is a Polish Resident and is one of the owners ,
Farzad is a Owner and is in Dubai , Arab Emirates
Samireh is a Owner and is in Dubai , Arab Emirates (She is ARABIAN)
for HDDs , Hetzner gives you the server with 4 HDDs but when you rent a rack you need to buy your OWN servers and that is how we host their , i have negotiated for like 1 month with Hetzner to get these kinda servers for a good price!
you know we wanted to give these servers about 2 months ago but we had issue for servers that i needed at least 6 HDDs :(
so now we are here , please tell me all concerns in ticket really we are BUSY with MANY MANY MANY things .
and Lowend Admin thank you for your support!
One other thing ,
Our Main Bank Account is IN Azerbaijan Republic , Royal Bank (www.royalbank.az)
and we have Gold, Platinum and Infinity Credit Card which makes us the VIP customer of RoyalBank!
I have got a response from them:
Plausible?
I had my hopes up when I saw their new ToS.
I guess I was mistaken.
Well, at least they responded.
Dude ,
we are trying to give best service , ;)
and i ask all helps to make this little hosting website better and better :)
new TOS is one of those ;)
new Website
and etc :)
Their main site is down. Showing a Cloudflare error.
perfect. (avoid at all costs)
Hello,
it can be because of CoudFlare’s nginx :(
we really need to fix this with CF , they have MANY errors nowadays
*sorry was too quick to complain. website is up from here.
Yes it was down.
I tested with host-tracker, and 17 hosts received 502.
http://host-tracker.com/check_res_ajx/8234347-0/
I said it was down.
I did not say it is down right now.
Here, take a look:
http://h-t.co/mdco
And we are back , my colleague’s comments are pending and will be shown soon ,
i just have time for clear one point ,
We are not Iran based AT ALL , we only have one exchange office there because you know Iran has oil market etc , any way , we used that address because we wanted to be excluded from VAT that Hetzner applies , but now it seems we can use our UAE address and that is VAT exclusive too :)
so anyway everything is fine ppl
and we are going to offer all legacy VPS for a discounted price ;)
anybody has a question please open a ticket in ipap.co/members
we do not have that much time at the moment to read comments in this post :(
We are setting up 3 new server every day for SuperVPS to set that UP!
another concern was that how can we provide such greate BW :)
actually we have about 800TB of data on our rack with 3Gbps Uplnk for Whole RACK at the moment!
so we can provide big BW and etc :)
anyway thank anybody for spending time ready and posting on this thread
@IPAP Co admin – Any idea when the Kernels will be updated to enable nat? Also can we get Ubuntu 10.04 LTS as a distro?
LEA, do you see any of these “colleague’s comments” that are pending? You’re usually good on keeping up on these. Would love to know the responses of the concerns that people raised about the servers and their allocations.
@IPAP Co admin – Any chance for such packages to be offered in US?
Anyone found a test IP yet? They have a test file link on their site, but it’s a volumedrive link located in the USA, not very relevant to this offer.
I think that you can ping hetzner ip.
Possibly really stupid of me but if I have 10TB of bandwidth it should not matter :)
http://46.4.241.11/100mb.test
Let’s do this xD
You killed it :(
Anyone has a script to keep redownloading it? So we could test the 10TB allocation? XD
I can spare around 2TB of BW out of my VPS’s :)
I will be taking it down in about 10 mins. Anyone care to share their results? There has been about 5 tests since I added the link.
avg: 3.26 MB/s, 4.96 MB/s, 5.26 MB/s from Washington
avg: 4.36 MB/s, 4.51 MB/s, 4.56 MB/s from Philly
peaks never above 10.00MB/s
thanks for the 600MB :3
I got
From my VPS in Sweden.
time for me to download that file over and over slowly eating into your 10TB… Becasue that will really work on my connection (sarcasm)
From 2 USA locations. A bit slow :S
Anyone has a VPS in Europe to test it?
Also, thanks Andy.
Btw, this should be a reply to the previous post. I don’t know how to use computers properly :/
FanaticalVPS.
FanaticalVPS is in Hetzner too?
must be. those speeds are too nice.
Yup, I forgot.
Here’s QualityServers:
qualityservers
For some reason my shell is very slow. takes me ages to do something, anyone else?
Yep, mine was going really slow, but seems ok again now.
Its a-bit better now, but the vePortal panel is NOT MOVING. I guess I will open a ticket.
hey it is being resolved we had to rebuid te raid array nagain and that is the cause
Try
http://firstnetserv.co.uk/testfiles/10Gio.dat
http://mirror.leaseweb.com/speedtest/10000mb.bin
lol 10gigs, I have 7gigs free :(
get one of the cheaper 100+GB VPS’s posted here :D
Thanks all who tested…. the file is now gone but the server peaked during the tests at 51.44Mib http://46.4.241.11/
my pleasure.
*unsubscribing from this long thread, support-less companies and offers never attract me, opened a ticket more then 24 hours ago, no reply still*
My test results:
I/O:
NET:
UnixBench:
Does not work vePortal on node 46.4.121.35. Fix please.
Re Install OS?
Hello,
@ Asim
i can not even find a username by your name
@ALL
vePOrtal is killing us off :(
main node load is abour 9 and veportal does not work :|
any one knows a solution please email me?!
however,
new stock SuperVPS would be with SolusVM ,
Why not use http://www.virtualizor.com/ ?
Its better and cheaper…
@IPAP I have a solution for you—get out of the hosting game, you obviously haven’t got a clue.
I guess I’m an idiot, but what does a CP has to do with server being oversold and not responding?
Guy thinks he will change CP and the load will be gone?
Excellent answer. I think same.
HEllo,
Sir there was no laod on servers , vePOrtal could not insert UBC settings into vm config file and that was the main problem! :)
You mean you don’t have a clue as to how to run a top?
LOL, are those guys serious? They are asking if anyone can help… This is ridiculous.
and something like this…
This is realy good…But now go on bad side :)
vePortal don’t work…Need to wait 20m+ to just login…I have try to open ticket, about this, and they say, they are fixing this…That is last answer on 14/06/2011 :) Today they again answer on my new ticekt about vePortal and they say that the vePortal is fixed, but today i need 1h to just login, and can’t see any icon from vePortal, so i can’t reinstall os, can’t change root password…So i opened new ticket about os install and password change, and after some time i got new os with new root password…But the problem is, i can’t login to ssh with that password coz it’s wrong…
Last word, think few times before you buy here…Maybe download speed is good like disk I/O but you will not have any VPS panel to reinstall os, change password, or to see how much disk space, ram, etc you use…
conv=fdatasync… CONV=FDATASYNC!!!! Everybody can get 800MB/s in their laptops without that ¬¬
dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/output.img bs=8k count=256k
262144+0 records in
262144+0 records out
2147483648 bytes (2.1 GB) copied, 113.428 seconds, 18.9 MB/s
I don’t get 800MB/s on my laptop.
LOL, bad luck xD With enough RAM maybe you can n_n
dmmcintyre3 got one? Well so much for respecting him….
By the way, how do you do something like that on windows? Never tested the laptop….
I do not have any services from ipap.
@drmike There is a dd version for windows, but I guess it doesn’t work in the same way.
Ok ok, maybe 800 is a lot xD But I used some HAX here:
on my test server/old laptop
dd if=/dev/zero of=test bs=64k count=2k
2048+0 records in
2048+0 records out
134217728 bytes (134 MB) copied, 0.654335 seconds, 205 MB/s
I win hahaha. Well, wasn’t a laptop, but is my “router/firewall/nat/dhcp/dns” xDDD with a 160GB disk and 4GB ram. Cache rulz….
We have Opened a ticket in vePOrtal about 48 hours ago , NO reply ,
this was LAST TIME EVER EVER EVER IPAP went with vePortal :)
please help us chose the VPS Panel thath suits your needs :
http://ipap.co/news/solusvm-or-sysvm/
Voted HyperVM as the others are all crap.
I am speechless.
When are you going to roll out these services? I’m having speed issues as well.
No reply to tickets for 48 hours, frustrating isn’t it.
Almost as frustrating as broken promises. (#764120)
After following comments, I think:
– They have monthly plans, so no lose for anyone paying month-to-month in any case and if you ever become dissatisfied, but anyway, keep a backup of your data -with this or any provider that doesn’t have backups-
– Seems to be doing best to improve, so they maybe able to deliver something at least close to what is advertised
Anyway that is everyone’s decision and estimation, and good luck!
When normally work vePortal on node 46.4.121.35?
Had some problems with the I/O
when i bought the server 2 days ago it had a Disk I/O of 350/400 mb/s
And now 40/60 mb/s
Opened a ticket and they said this:
Is 58.9 MB/s really normal on those drives?
Yes, that is more then good.
Poor I/O – X-20MB/s
Fair I/O – 25-40MB/s
Good I/O – 60MB/s
Superb I/O 90MB/s
But yet again it’s just my personal view on the dd test.
I am not sure why are you complaining. It is pretty good.
When you bought the server it probably wasn’t crowded. and now when it is, it is very good.
That the servers at node 46.4.121.35, terribly slow all the software packages installed for very long, please fix the problem, vePanel does not work either.
yep, ssh is abit slow, and veportal doesnt work, plus they sended on mail wrong ip of veportal.
same here. on a support ticket they said they tested my vps and it’s ssh moving good.
anyway for that price i can’t complain.
vePortal works for me now, but the SSH is still slow.
The I/O is now at 30mbps….
veportal still doesnt work, and now ssh start to be extra slow.
I go for their VDS right now
Made a support ticket if they can remove my VPS and make the VDS
I would wait until they resolve anything, but meh.
resolve everything* :o
Their VDS does not have a control panel at all
Just using SSH and can use WHMCS to reboot
# wget http://cachefly.cachefly.net/100mb.test
–2011-06-18 16:46:48– http://cachefly.cachefly.net/100mb.test
Resolving cachefly.cachefly.net… 140.99.93.175, 140.99.93.175
Connecting to cachefly.cachefly.net|140.99.93.175|:80… connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response… 200 OK
Length: 104857600 (100M) [application/octet-stream]
Saving to: `100mb.test’
100%[======================================>] 104,857,600 30.6M/s in 3.3s
2011-06-18 16:46:56 (30.6 MB/s) – `100mb.test’ saved [104857600/104857600]
Does anyone aware of when it is all normal?
Now barely have reinstalled the OS from vePortal, terribly slow vePortal, and now the server does not work at all.
Server’s IP address 46.4.241.73, running on node 46.4.121.35.
Open a support ticket there
I wrote to customer support, hope to solve the problem.
they are going to say “Working on it.”
@Stalk3R You will have more luck praying to the Linux gods for some sort of divine intervention.
To cover their costs and make a profit these nodes are going to have to be heavily oversold. vePortal can clearly not cope with the number of nodes that they are trying to ram in there.
See comment here http://www.lowendbox.com/blog/ipap-co-6-99-2gb-openvz-vps-in-germany/#comment-35272 they have no idea what they are doing, asking LEB community for help!
I am just going to kiss my $7 goodbye. You know what they say, if it sounds too good to be true it probably is.
As for opening a support ticket, best of luck getting a response.
Hehehehe :P
make sure you download 10TB worth of 10gb test files before your month is up
we need to see what happens ;0
Holly Shit.I m too late to see this. When restock?
Don’t bother.
Read the thread, you will be loosing money.
In stock just now; 12 Available hurry up! :)
first time i logged in i did a update & upgrade to ubuntu. now i reloaded the os from veportal and without updating seems to run smoother(the vps) . as for veportal, .. same as you guys.
anyway, i don’t need veportal atm. so overall i’m happy with this company for the amount of money i paid
Happy to hear so, so far, and thanks for the update
Where’s their US VPS location?who know it?
It seems Volumedrive, Scranton PA
No , if we strt SUperVPS on USA it would be FDCServers!
Volume Drive is OUT OF stock we have like 100 servers with them and we can not addmore,
i have formated 2 of my own servers top give them to customers :(
#1 host.
I’m getting:
3.3 mb/s more :D
I/O keeps getting lower and lower each hour
Anyway, Monday or Tuesday they setup my VDS MED Package lets see if that one is fast, I’ll post the tests here when i got it
“I/O keeps getting lower and lower each hour”
I’m afraid it will keep getting lower. Huge HD space + unmetered bandwidth + cheap = recipe for disaster ^_^
i can give you ppl the top on main node and see that there is like 10 DD commands at same time :)
can u ppl please at least use DD one by one?!
Hello,
I/O is noirmal i think for 7200RPM normal HDDs + Adapted Radi controller :)
i am cheking checking and checking it over and over!
but veportal is one disaster we actually saw in recent days :(
but we actually are working on SolusVM to fix that!
oh come on, be faster, veportal is killing me, and ssh too, so slow never saw it like that.
Your only using 7200’s on a vps node? There is a failure there.
One Request :
Can anybody PLEASE if knows how to do a temp fix for vePortal Slowness , email me at info @ ipap.co?!
Greg has suggested one fix and it is doing better but if anybody knows i appreciate it and even we can pay for the help :
our suggestion was :
1 – Tweaking HTTPD server that is for vePortal
2 – Running a Cronjob to restart that HTTPD Service every 10 minutes .
Note : The Main node loads are average between : 8 to 12 with %10us , 30%WA and %60Idle
Just offering you some help here. Since you are asking. I’ve read all of the comments and I think you have two problems.
#1 vePortal does appear to have a issue with management
#2 You have a lot of contention on your host nodes.
Both #1 and #2 are issues but they are not a result of each other. They are separate problems that are unrelated unless you are running vePortal in a container on this host node. Your not are you? If you are then that is why vePortal is suffering. If you made that mistake in the design then you need to get a small stand alone server to have vePortal run exclusive on. Please note that the portal is not causing problems with the containers running slow. OpenVZ is handling the containers not vePortal.
I’m a bit confused I thought I read up above that you had a problem with I/O because of 3ware? But 4 posts above you said Adaptec? Is this a different node or was that a typo? Either way can you have whoever designed the system verify that write back caching is enabled on the controller? What model Adaptec is it? If its not enabled that will make all the difference in the world. Please note if the BBU (battery backup) is not present some will not let you enable write back caching.
I don’t like seeing a load of 8 to 12 to a host node.
30%WA is I/O wait. Meaning that the CPU has work to do but its having to wait on the I/O subsystem to do it. This is a problem. This is whats known as I/O contention.
Are you seeing this sustained or is this a peak?
Your #1 priority right now is to verify that write back caching is enabled and that the BBU is present. Schedule a downtime in advance to have the node powered off to check this.
If it is enabled and you still have this you need to split the current load across another host node or two.
I’m not telling you how to run your business but I’m just offering my help if you want it.
Brandon Crawford
This is a example of what load + I/O Wait should reflect on a loaded node. Around 60 VM’s. The node has 16GB RAM, 4 Disk Raid 10 with a Adaptec 5402 + BBU.
DD yields:
Without write back caching and the multiple spindles it would not be able to do that.
Interesting Brandon n_n
Yes, these guys act clueless and have apperantly installed vePortal on the node server instead of a dedicated “master” control server.
I doubt they have BBU on their RAID cards.
Iowait value are too big. Get faster disk from somewhere and install it to your main node.
Omg, they deleted my account, I didint even start to use my VPS, i filed up a dispute on PayPal, 1st impression really bad, get out of my way and stop being a host if you will behave like this !
Might be helpful if you gave some details and specifics. Doesn’t look too convincing without giving anything like that.
Not that I’m defending ipap of course.
[humor]since when you defending IPAP?[/humor] :p
but yeah give us some details and please be more specific,, maybe they aren’t “remove” your VPS, just moving to another healthy node. :D
Got an email from them, “Server Maintenance” They are going to fix the I/O
Here is the Email:
Unfortinately my IP isn’t one of these.
Have send them an ticket and they will check it :D
Anyway, i hope this will get fixed
Did a few tests again this morning
And the I/O Test
Looks like I/O is still a bit slow compared to my other VPS at an other host (Not a low end VPS)
Results I/O other VPS
Much better, Hope that IPAP also gets this results after the fix
This is good. I truly believe these folks mean well but have some problems with system architecture. Give them a chance to get it resolved.
Brandon Crawford
Just ordered the “Super VPS” a few minutes ago. Haven’t contacted support or anything, but I did immediately notice the high latency I/O:
A few minutes later
Not really expecting much, but see if this gets better soon. For such a low price, I don’t mind waiting a bit.
Thanks to LEA and IPAP for the deal BTW! :)
They are busy with the servers
Box is stalling bad due to I/O…
In their defence, server running pretty well now after the SolusVM changeover…
Now I just need a use for it.
Setup a centos mirror :D
Guys, seriously, do you want someone who does not know everything too well but is willing to admit that they do not know things and try to ask around for help or do you want your VPS host to be like that Foster guy in W2 who knows nothing and are not willing to admit the fact that he knows nothing and screw everyone up in the end?
I am not saying that these guys are perfect, but at least they are willing to listen and learn, they first used Blesta but after people complained, they moved to WHMCS, they are using vePortal but are now trying to make a change, their TOS used to be like crap but now at least it is a lot better.
For all I know, these guys may not have a University degree + 10 yrs sys admin experience (and that is perhaps one of the reasons why they charge an incredibly low price), but don’t you think they deserve a chance to learn and to evolve?
Not exactly a fan of them but I just think they should deserve a better treatment than what they are receiving here.
That’s the problem. In the past they weren’t willing. We pointed out a number of issues with their sites and their offerings but just got negativity back from them.
I don’t know everything either and I’ll be the first to admit it. I do know though that posting on a general hosting blog (It’s not even a forum) isn’t the way to get help. (Especially considering it’s their SALES offer. Makes them look really good.) Either vePortal’s own support forum or the LET forum would have been where I would have started and that would have been done after spending some time with Google. I would have also been posting with as much details as possible such as errors, what debugging I have done, etc. I would have also been leaning on the box provider and/or the techs at the datacenter also to fix their systems if that was an option. They appear to have done none of that. At least nothing up there says that they have.
I would be the first to offer help and I really do my best to do so but after trying to do so with these folks previously, I know my time is wasted. I’d rather go help and feed breakfast to the 250+ homeless folks that I just got in front as that does more good. And, I’ve got to admit that I don’t know squat about vePortal. :)
But I’m not stopping anyone else from doing so. I’m very glad Brandon stepped up and made some suggestions. If the folks who did my tech support handled vePortal, I would have forwarded them the link to this thread and asked them if they had any ideas. Heck, I’ve done that to Quickweb and Fran a couple of times previously.
As to the out of stocks, I do hope that they have just taken what was still available off line until they get their systems but up and running.
If anyone else wants to offer help, I;m not going to stand in the way. There are better ways to ask for and offer assistance though.
No offense intended.
@drmike: Please accept my apologies for the confusion but the comments above was totally not pointing to you at all. I apologize not because you are a respected member here, but because you have every single fact to back every single statement you have made, which I can not argue about.
The “people” that I was referring to, I am not sure if you have noticed recently or not, are the bunch of first-time/occasional posters who loves to make conclusive statements like: “this got to be a scam” or “they will fail” or “xxxx company screwed me up” without having any statement to back them up.
Like what I said, IF at the end of the day, IPAP run away with everyone’s money, then there is nothing I can say (in fact, I would probably be the first one to call them scammers), however, from what I can see, these guys are just some unlucky dudes having a hard time to get things “right”.
Different cultures treat suggestions differently and I am sure you will agree with me that in some culture, people take offense when others tell them “how to run their business” (although I understand that you were merely being nice and give them some help), however, in their defense, I think it is harder for someone who is originally against taking suggestions to be one that is willing to take suggestions and ask for help in a place that they perhaps think will be the most responsive (judging from how much attention everyone is paying here).
And may be they do “look bad” by asking for help here, but on the other hand, at least we know they are trying their best to fix things rather than sitting there doing nothing and tell their customers:”there is nothing we can do until VePortal get back to us” (which I am sure this is not unfamiliar to frequent LEB readers).
I agree these guys lack both technical and perhaps business skills (sorry for being honest), however, I think in this industry, the most important thing is to be able to work hard and learn stuff as fast as possible and have a thick face to learn. They were, at the beginning, under the par in terms of those skills, but I think they are trying to pick up along the way at this point.
By the way, for anyone wants to order, they are out of stock again, looks like a lot of people still want to buy them.
They are just a scam company and people will lose their money.
There is no way they can sell 2GB VPS for $7 regardless of the amount of disk or bandwidth.
@Thelen: did they run away with your money? Did they tried to scam you by any means? If no, please stop accussing someone as scammer just because they are selling things at a low price. For all I know, chinese and indians are making things that cost them 30 cents US and happily sell them to all americans for 30 dollars, are all Chinese and Indians “scam artists” by your logic?
Please, don’t use Internet to say anything you like just because nobody knows who or where you are.
In their defense, there have been a lot worse companies listed here than these folks.
and what people lose? $7? omg
Its not about the money. If they promiss something for 7 ou 700, they have to deliver it, working and as it was written when you hired it. These guys obviusly cant do that.
i agree but you wont get anywhere that amount of resources for $7.
and the most important thing is that they’re trying to fix the issues, as a proof veportal works quite good *at the moment* for me (can’t say the same for ssh tho). so if you want perfect services, i guess you have to pay 7, 8 times more.
I’ll give you 4GB RAM/ 1TB HD/ 1GB/s Dedicated & Unmetered for oh lets say $6.50/month; just send me the money and I’ll hook you up, promise!
Fat lot of good a promise is if it isn’t delivered.
I think you are talking about your server :)
i would like to open a thread in LET to talk about this dude :)
IN VolumeDrive THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWENN X4 Server OR C2Q :)
I asked Josh he said :
I just can say C2Q is better!
The Performace of the Servers are till now real bad but the network is awesome
Lol, I fancy buying their ‘SUPERVPS MONSTER’ plan and filling that nice 1TB disk, or then again maybe buy 2 and give it a bash to fill both.
How long do you think it will survive? LOL
Not another company with no business sense, jesus, still got the last 250GB disk host emailing me for their 5 bucks.
At least their VDS are holding well here. Nitros Server still reporting 108 Mb/s…. I/O is outstanding here. VDS is at 75 Mb/s.
Awesome, i just bought a VDS 2 days ago, hoping they set it up soon
Hey , Dude who are you ? i am just curious because i wanna know who has both VDS and Nitros with US :D
BY Who are you i meant BlackStorm72
Well I don’t feel like giving out entire information of my email as it already has enough spam from providers.
Anyway;
The last invoice I paid with you guys was #279
I had a VDS with you first, IO was great but network was 100KB/s which you guys then gave me a Nitros.
Nitros was very nice, 108MB/s IO really ran our game server at great speed, but you guys were unable to give me a 4GB increase due to Citrix not giving you the RAM.
I’ve gone back down to a VDS, which btw is still not delivered, in the USA, which Farzad will add the 4GB to that VDS I ordered.
Great servers in my opinion, but your support is having some problems. Just some advice for you.
I think i’ll stay off the SuperVPS’s though, your line of VDS/Nitros is nice enough.
Just note that Nitros servers are not dedicateds, they are VDS’s but in my opinion not as powerful for a game server as we need as much clock cpu as possible.
AMD Opteron 6128 2.1Ghz won’t do well with single-threaded clock games. i7 3.33Ghz did really well however.
well…
hummm….
it’s really a nice low end offer, imho.
i hope they keep doing well with their servers and customers :)
Anyone knows the specs on their nodes?
I mean, how much RAM are they running on it?
24GB RAM
So, they can have 12 clients on there.
12 x 7$ = Monster server?
@Dekken Probably you can have more. If the provider monitors the nodes and assuming that generally not all the VPS will take their 2GB, then oversell is normal and is ok in some way. But in any way, I can’t expect more than 18 (maybe 20) of these per node for a decent service.
20 @ $7 is only $140 per month. 30 and they may make a little profit.
What’s the price tag on a server like this?
The servers are with hetzner.de (http://www.hetzner.de/en/hosting/produkte_rootserver/eq10) so about $156 but allegedly they have their own hardware in their own rack so price is only an indication.
+ the price for bandwidth and power usage
They are clearly going to fit more on, highly oversold, clearly.
Yup they are “nice”. Deliver new servers before to fix the old ones. Nat is not working on the server they sad 2 days before they will fix it in few hours next day they will fiy it today ….. . Also now i can’t log on because the root password have changed and can’t log on on the solosvm
Hello,
We have not oversold AGAIN
ABout Pricing :
Each Server at hetzner is $1400 for us then we put there on our 167.34 Euro/Month RACK (49 units)
please do not try to actively check for pricing ;)
and NOW we went through the hard thing we have reloaded 10 servers into SOlusVM and emailed clist from 48 hours ago :)
so if anyone has not got his/her nEW VPS on SOlusVM please kindly open a ticket with subject :
SoulsVM not delivered :)
So if I grab the 1TB plan and fill the disk to 1TB you wont suspend, terminate or request me to move my data nor will the main node have issues?
If so I will take 4
If you ake 1TB i will give you a HUG :)
me myself like dowloading things ;)
so i like ppl when they can fill the server UP! use your WHole DIsk
and if you download movies ect please give us links too :D (Just kididng )
Umm.. can I use it for seedbox? ….. o_O
When will you have stock? I really want to try out your SuperVPS :P
Yes, me too.
We will have stock today 30-40 servers :)
and if there is anybody not got his new supervPS please open ticket with subject SolusVM not delivered!
So did solusvm fix your outrageous load problems?
Its about the admin managing the machine, Nothing to do with the panel :)
I saw Asia location in your homepage but how to choose Asia in order progress? And where is your server located in Asia?
I am not sure how they handle co-location customers, but be careful with Hetzner and their wicked Abuse policy.
We (NordicVPS) experienced a severe downtime back in December 2010, because Hetzner took down the whole node server down based on one abuse report.
On WHT another customer hosting 1000+ websites on servers with Hetzner, shares his experience: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1058547
We (PreteenVPS) are lies and scammers had no downtime because due to our professional communication skills it to us only 6 month to resolve the abuse problem. And we are proud doing it in record time!
@Tom – ???
To be fair to them, it looks like they’ve been working on this through night. My VPS is now up and running, although with different IP’s.
@Bazza: I think Tom meant his company was mistreated by Hetzener…
So my VPS is up and running now, and seems like they also reduced the MHz on the CPU:
meh
It’s bad :(
I do not see it as bad, they never made any guaranteed CPU claim and it will help reduce abuse.
I actually have a new found respect for IPAP. They have worked hard to resolve their problems and hopefully have learnt something from it.
Thats right!
Iptables (nat) are also working now
Giant (-11 Available)
Huge (-28 Available)
Monster (-9 Available)
A record? LOL :)
I think it’s normal, they new SuperVPS packages are being delivered under SolusVM, and if the SolusVM integrated with WHMCS, the stock automatically reduced when they migrate a vps from vePortal (they cleared all stock before the vePortal -> SolusVM migration). I think, when they finished, they will set up the correct available VPS numbers again depends on the available resources.
Mmm…interesting, so basically 30 signups when they were using VePortal? I would have thought more signups based on the response here :)
You are assuming they had ran out of all stock before switching to SolusVM.
They may have had 30 ‘huge’ left, but sold 58. Re-allocating that 58 would result in a -28 stock.
It is all just speculation.
True, silly me, I was thinking they were just “migrating” servers, so they should start with 0…but I guess not :)
Yay, looks like they also improved their servers
Now waiting for my VDS, They said they will setup the server today
I wonder what happened to their site??
am not seing that maybe u made a typo in the address.
I am not sure what the hell.
http://i.imgur.com/tXObU.jpg
Have you checked ur computer for viruses ? :L
must be a DNS error or something. i see their site at that address
Yea probably something wrong with the DNS.
The members area works just fine.
And yes, I am virus-free. I have a 2 scans running every day at 1AM :(
Scratch that, the members area now also does not work.
ipap.com
Yup, but if you check the screenshot I went to the .co domain.
Anyways, I am using google’s DNS now, and it works fine..
Naaaaaaaaah, photoshop xD
Edited by LowEndAdmin: M_M requested that this whole sub-thread to be removed and he is apologising for discussing politics.
TBH, this is a revolutionary offer,
i hope they don’t end on the dead pool.
Hi to all sorry but i am completely nood on vps and i would like to start learning but i cant find any tutorial on that so the question is pretty simple.. if i buy this server can i setup a shoutcast server on that ? or is it just for hosting ? May i have 3 sites hosting there & and a shoutcast server with 2 radios (100 listeners@128 each one) on the same VPS?
Sorry if this is irrelevant to the topic i didn’t mean to spam..
Thanks for your answers
Yes you can set up shoutcast, yes you can host 3 websites aswell as shoutcast on the same server.
Would I recommend it? No. I always recommend keeping shoutcast on a separate server (after all you don’t want your websites running slow if you have a lot of listeners right?)
On the other hand, 100 listeners at 128kbps is only 12.8mbps, so it shouldn’t be a problem to have the three websites on the same server (plenty of bandwidth left for the websites)
@Hintswen First of all thanks a lot for your answer.. Reggarding this offer as i undestand this vps is unmanaged so is it any tutorial on configuring a vps for the services i couldnt managed to find one @google and since i want or maybe can any person from ipap configure this for me if i buy it…
Thanks again and sorry if im spamming the threat
Because it’s unmanaged I doubt anything from ipap would configure it for you. If you can’t find information on google, you are not looking hard enough.
Packages in-stock again:
Giant (12 Available)
Huge (22 Available)
Monster (10 Available)
cool but my server is offline ….
Same.
And when it was up, it was super slow.
The control panel is also not working properly.
online!
Yup, it came online, and now it is down again! YUPPYYYYYY
B.
Kunde 22/06/2011 17:30
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xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
IPAP Co. Team
Mitarbeiter 22/06/2011 17:32
it si a netwrk issue on hetzner and will be fixed soon!
IPAP Co . Customer Service
Tel : +1 215 488 7399
Website : IPAP.co
Support Area : ipap.co/members
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B.
Kunde 22/06/2011 17:42
http://hetzner-status.de/ but why is here nothing about the issus?
still no answer
I call BS on that,
Traceroute shows it bouncing between 46.4.121.35 and 46.4.121.33 until it runs out of hops.
Their routing is screwed up.
Back up now, uptime now 25 mins. So it was NOT a network issue.
Indeed. Hetzner doesn’t have such issues with their network.
Hi,
i have buy dedicated vps sind sunday (3days) i have receive anything
I got the same, bought a VDS at 19/6/2011
But still not online, they keep saying yes today the server will be online, but they said that 2 times but still no server
Still waiting for it, i’ll update when its online
These servers are overloaded. Disk I/O is about 9-15 MB/sec just about a day after the servers are coming back online and no refund policy.
Same, look at this terrible I/O
Ever saw that? 5.1 MB/s
I got 5.0 MB/s.
What happened? All terribly slow.
dd if=/dev/zero of=test bs=64k count=512 conv=fdatasync
512+0 records in
512+0 records out
33554432 bytes (34 MB) copied, 15.8455 s, 2.1 MB/s
I WIN!
dd if=/dev/zero of=test bs=64k count=512 conv=fdatasync
512+0 records in
512+0 records out
33554432 bytes (34 MB) copied, 16.8592 s, 2.0 MB/s
dd if=/dev/zero of=test bs=64k count=512 conv=fdatasync
512+0 records in
512+0 records out
33554432 bytes (34 MB) copied, 47.4912 s, 707 kB/s
dd if=/dev/zero of=test bs=64k count=512 conv=fdatasync
512+0 records in
512+0 records out
33554432 bytes (34 MB) copied, 8.59672 seconds, 3.9 MB/s
dd if=/dev/zero of=test bs=64k count=512 conv=fdatasync
512+0 records in
512+0 records out
33554432 bytes (34 MB) copied, 56.6027 s, 593 kB/s
i guess they’re having problem with raid disk controller or something. does lowering bs value give you the same result?
user@server:~# dd if=/dev/zero of=test bs=1 count=16k conv=fdatasync
16384+0 records in
16384+0 records out
16384 bytes (16 kB) copied, 1.32651 s, 12.4 kB/s
They had plenty of time to fix it. 8 hour downtime to check the RAID disks followed by a day of downtime to switch to solusVM in the course of 3 days. Improvements made? Absolutely none, if anything, it’s worse now. It’s funny that they offer 1 Gbps unmetered. You’d be lucky if your hard drive can keep up with 1-3 MB/sec.
I am going to guess that people all writing 1.1GB to the disks at the same time is not helping the results.
It is clear these servers are oversold, they will have to be to be cost effective. Overselling is not a bad thing if it is done carefully/properly (maybe not the case here, time will tell).
I will also hazard a guess that next month things will improve as lots of people cancel their accounts.
What happened? Who knows?
Looks like they got alot of problems atm, they are also not delivering my VDS i bought 3 days ago…
3 days? Im on day 16 here awaiting delivery.
VDS Delivery always appears to take more then 20 days.
My Nitros took about 12 days to deliver.
dd if=/dev/zero of=test bs=64k count=512 conv=fdatasync
512+0 records in
512+0 records out
33554432 bytes (34 MB) copied, 0.453094 s, 74.1 MB/s
? working fine for me
[root@vps ~]# dd if=/dev/zero of=test bs=64k count=512 conv=fdatasync
512+0 records in
512+0 records out
33554432 bytes (34 MB) copied, 3.79741 seconds, 8.8 MB/s
Spoke too soon? :P
bingolino != Bughegger.
Are you confusing the last 2 comments? :P
There were some abusers using lots of cpus , we have installed some monitoring tools on all nodes and optimzied nodes to please be advised that your CPU is shared , SupervPS does not mean Dedicated server it is yet a VPS but wth more RAM and HDD (you will not own the whole CPU) , so please use CPU carefully any overusage in CPU that will cause high load on main node will result in suspension ,
We put 10-20 servers on each node (depending on package) and will monitor each server resources , If anyone sees any kinda slownes plase open a ticket so that we will determine the abuser on the node and wll take proper actions :)
AND we have restock but only 20 is remaining ;)
we will restock on each Tuesday about 40-50 numbers! (because adding each main node will cost $1400 and we can only add 3 nodes max each week)
another thing is we will upgrade the HDD on VDS packages for a limited time , the HDD would me triple the past!
VDS Packages:
Does that mean Nitros and VDS? As known both are considered VDS’s and are completely confusing.
I have to admit the ‘vps/vds/nitros/’ line is really confusing on your lines, i’ve seen tickets be named VDS’s for Nitros servers and makes me think that I have a VDS instead of a Nitros.
Now I don’t need any big hard drive space for my VDS, I could settle for 20GB and still have >50% of space left on it. I hope the upgrade doesn’t slow your VDS hard drive I/O down.
Triple the past = so 75GB On VDS Med is 225GB? eh… you could call that a promotion but I can just imagine the Hard Drive IO speed dropping by Triple the past too.
Our game server needs at least 30-40MB/s IO. I’m pretty sure low ends could handle at least 30 I/O, despite its fair IO.
In my opinion, that not a good idea to share all cpus with all vps; this will cause same cpu abuse problems again and again.
Intel i7 x980 cpu is very powerfull, if you give just 1 or 2 core (2 or 4 HT thread), this prevent that one misconfigured vps use all cpu resources and slow down the other servers on the same node until the support staff will suspend the misconfigured vps. This offer still remain “will beat lot of providers” with reduced cpu cores. IMHO
It’s not a CPU issue, it’s a disk I/O issue. Geekbench results haven’t degraded as much as I/O.
Funny thing is, they’re trying to sell more stock.
on super vps …
Previously, it went as low as 9 MB/s.
I guess I won’t be paying for next month.
These guys suspended my service of apparent fraud…
Status: Suspended
Suspension Reason: Refund granted via PayPal! FRAUD!
Well, at least you have a refund n_n Go to other place with your money xD
They refused my request for a refund
Yeah of course I am.
Escalated…. will see what happens.
with no reason?
they have a really poor I/O performance:
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another VPS:
Sure bro.
I noticed DD results were very poor, but downloading a 100mb test file was transferring at around 50M/s, consistently.
SolusVM is now so slow it should be classed as torture
… vps has just gone down. It won’t boot via SolusVM either.
Seems like a lot of other IP’s in that range are unresponsive also
same crap.
I should add that wget will cache things into memory (be it real RAM or SWAP). You can get 50MB/sec or even 1GB/sec on a DD if you remove the ‘conv’ part, but then you’re relying entirely on caching and not getting the actual drive performance.
The 2.6.18 kernels don’t have cgroup support so there isn’t any way to set process priority easily. ionice can help some but unless they’re running some brutal constant while loop monitoring ps they’re not going to catch dd’s.
Francisco
also my VPS is now death and from SolusVM I can’t restore it.
These guys are complete amateurs, I forgave them their initial problems but the fact they still have not sorted it is insane.
LEB admin should not put his readers at the risk.
I suspect this will be the last offer he will publish for them until they sort things out.
VPS is back up again. SolusVM is now responsive
Hello to ALL PPL ,
it seems ONE node has an issue that causes downtime of the whole SolusVM cluster
the Problem of that ,
there is NO LOG in server’s log , that will be no hardware issue since we have done hardware check on some servers including this ,
However we will fix this DAMN issue ,
to be clear , ALL SuperVPS on this range : 46.4.241.0/24 , 46.4.108.0/25
will get one 1 week free for these downtimes
I as one of the Owner apology for this problem :(
please open a ticket at the time of renewal and we will change renewal date
FYI – ofcourse none of this is anywhere on their website.
> We have scanned all servers and found that there are bunch of abusers on
> some servers , we do not allow TORRENT on our germany servers and we d not
> allow one VPS overloads the servers!
>
> Here are our high priority warnings :
>
> 1 – All minecraft users have 12 hours to adjust their java applications to
> NOT eat all CPU available on the server , each VPS is allowed maximum 15% of
> the MAIN NODE’s CPU not 100% so if we find out that any VPS is having one
> process which is usnig more than 15% CPU on main node for more than 300
> seconds the mentioned VM would be suspended without notice .
>
> if you need more CPU you can signup for our SSD VPS
>
>
>
> 2 – We do not allow Torrent or P2P application like Emule, Edonkey and ….
> on Germany Nodes, if our techs find ANY VPS on the nodes that is runing such
> programs , the mentioned VM would be suspended without notice .
>
> If you need Torrent then please sign up for our SeedBox Services
>
> This is for our best so that other customer will not be effected by some
> abusive usages done by others clients
Seems like that’s a bit unfair policy for CPU usage. A simple extract of a large file would get you banned. Why not just say 6 hours or even 12 hours? Those are the people abusing your servers.
That would have to be SOME kind of a large file, to take over 5 minutes to extract. Outside of rolling a backup back onto a server from tape drive, I’ve personally never had a tarball that ginormagantuan. The policy seems fair to me.
A quick second thought on this. If you happen to have a file that big that needs extracting, man nice, and pretend your version of tar came without a v flag. You too can extract large files without overloading the server. I don’t have a VPS with these guys but if I did, I wouldn’t wish to be on the same node while some guy runs a proc eating monster java app and they wait 6 or 12 hours to decide if he’s an abuser or just playin at it.
Hmm. I’m good with that policy then, but if I don’t see some major speed improvements, this is it for me. There’s no way I’m paying for next month.
It takes over 5 minutes to do rm -Rf on a 100MB folder and the CPU usage goes way over 15%. Should my VPS be terminated for doing that?
Poor I/O is killing everything, including the CPU. Don’t try apt-get update & apt-get upgrade, your VPS might get terminated >_<
The policy could be fair, but it's not fair right now, it makes this pretty much useless VPS completely useless.
Don’t run Java application on OpenVZ.
compared to Xen, OpenVZ runs Java better. However this all changes when a host massively oversells.
Such tips are clearly coming from WHT where people just say nonsense to raise their post count.
Got a MMORPG server with 160 days uptime running 2GB java on OpenVZ = 0 problems.
Got a Tomcat7 serving an advertising APP on 1GB OpenVZ = 0 problems.
> 1 – All minecraft users have 12 hours to adjust their java applications to
> NOT eat all CPU available on the server , each VPS is allowed maximum 15% of
> the MAIN NODE’s CPU not 100% so if we find out that any VPS is having one
> process which is usnig more than 15% CPU on main node for more than 300
> seconds the mentioned VM would be suspended without notice .
Well done, just post a tut on that ! Not everybody knows how to do it !
yep how to do that?
Well, I don’t understand that about 16% of the main node cpu. Let’s say, 15% of each core? Or.. wtf? xD
I received this email too and I think I’ll desperate if ipap.co suspend my vps.
I think I read enough to never buy anything from this amateur. Here’s what I summarized for myself:
1) veportal –> solusvm to solve overselling problem –> FAIL.
2) Unable to fix I/O abuse since basically the announcement of this VPS line –> FAIL.
3) Sure Lowendbox isn’t a support desk, but failing to show for a whole week and not take responsibility for overselling leading to server instability of 10′ of clients –> FAIL.
4) Adjusting CPU after a contract (sale) has been made –> FAIL.
5) Coming up with Terms of Service on the go, when people didn’t sign up under them –> FAIL.
6) Breaching privacy of customers –> FAIL.
but ipap.co cheap and I love cheap pal
just to show what a scam they are i asked a few simple questions and there reply is yes you can host torrent tracker yes you can torrent now up above admin admits you cant after sending me this info saying you can stay clear and go for server4you been with them 2 years no issues
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1:can you run torrent tracker on your services?
2:if i wished for windows install then i would just need to add my own license ?
3:do you offer control panel for the vps/vds like plesk and is it additional cost
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5:can you use for seedbox?
6:do you offer resellers on the vps/vds packages
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I don’t get it..they said they have another service for that, they did not say you are allowed to run it on this vps package.
One thing I know for sure, their support is crap, takes them freaking ages to do something.
Waiting since yesterday for them to fix one little thing.
Well atleast your problem is fixed within a day, mine, unfortunately:
This is the speed I get from one of the SuperVPS Monster
Since 18th, I had been waiting for IPAP to fix this. Someone throttled my box even though I haven’t even used more than 1% of my bandwidth. Now my box would never go over 9Mbit. They can’t fix it, as they said it’s VEPortal problem, and they don’t know how to fix it. I requested to be transferred to SolusVM but my tickets keep getting closed. It seems like IPAP is avoiding fixing this for me.
Heya,
Thats the problem with that cachefly bandwidth speed… there is no problem with the supervps….
Try downloading: http://mirror.leaseweb.com/speedtest/10000mb.bin
It gave me the best speed….
And btw this IPAP.CO’s Service Rocks.. I recieved the VPS in just 15 minutes after my purchase. And very quick response… Worth buying this one… I personally think this one is the best till now…
Regards,
Anush
reboot! they said am I right?
I wonder how much this troll got paid to post lies on LEB when more then enough comments report an awesome speed of 3 KBPS.
Maybe issues are yet to come on his node :P
Hi,
I have receive my vds vps after 5 days.
The server is fast, but there is no panel to reinstall system.
System delivered Debian.
I have found in /etc/apt/source.list -> DVD source. :)
its not professionel
I will test the server this week ;)
Obviously, something is terribly wrong here. I’m still hoping they’ll fix it …
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!
You can still enter to an SSH session? xDDD
Yes, sometimes xD
so…. the vps is only suitable for a 10uv daily websites,
or elses we got suspended for having 100uv online at a time ? (that required cpu processes).
i think you should renaming your vps service to a webhosting/shared hosting service.
This VPS is worth buying…. I loved their service.. Hope it would become same for you… Try their service.. :)
As it is just 10-15$… Not a big deal ? :)
@Anush RSA: Stop spread your lye here. I have VPS with them, so the I/O is:
The bandwith is almost the same as all others – maximum of 8.5MB/s because of lack of I/O.
There are sometimes good I/O and sometimes bad I/O. But bandwith is good.
LOL
I dn’t know for super vps they service not good, for regular vps is very good.
Acctually I bought Super VPS and it is super fine.. :)
Why you use Apache?
Anush RSA
No, I’m not waiting for it to finish. Just my box that has problem, the other box doesn’t, it’s just that IPAP refuse to transfer me into another node, still waiting for their reply.
Actually, that works very well for me:
Yeah, as I said, it’s just one box, must be some weird config they placed behind my box. IPAP support had been beating around the bush for a week. That’s not even fun.
op3l
reboot! they said am I right?
> damn right on the spot!
After that, they requested me to reload the box. Yeah, I did, problem remain unsolved, and they seems to unwilling to solve this for me, looks like if I want it, I have to cancel it, and order another box, which 25$ down the drain. Something I’m not willing to do, and I’m really holding back to escalate to Paypal.
Paypal paypal!!! Damn this sucks, I WAS tempted…until reading all these comments.
’nuff said
root@dodgy:/tmp# dd if=/dev/zero of=test bs=64k count=512 conv=fdatasync
512+0 records in
512+0 records out
33554432 bytes (34 MB) copied, 9.40913 s, 3.6 MB/s
network down, very slow uplink speed at super vps. anyone?
I have same problem.
I hope they can fix they upload speed asap.
It is already fixed. If you a problem, contact support.
Will not be long before the hard drive is slower than the network and that will be what slows your download down.
First Test:
[root@data ~]# dd if=/dev/zero of=test bs=64k
85825+0 records in
85825+0 records out
5624627200 bytes (5.6 GB) copied, 13.7408 seconds, 409 MB/s
Second Test:
[root@data ~]# dd if=/dev/zero of=test bs=64k
114671+0 records in
114671+0 records out
7515078656 bytes (7.5 GB) copied, 20.3614 seconds, 369 MB/s
My VPS = Giant Super VPS.. :S
Seriously, how much IPAP paid you? The speed you’re listing is faster than even the SSD VPS lulz.
I paid 14.99$ bro.. :S
This VPS is working like charm for me.. :D
So…. and the fdatasync¿?
[root@data ~]# wget http://mirror.leaseweb.com/speedtest/10000mb.bin
–2011-06-28 20:02:42– http://mirror.leaseweb.com/speedtest/10000mb.bin
Resolving mirror.leaseweb.com… 94.75.223.121, 2001:1af8:4030:1:0:dead:beef:cafe
Connecting to mirror.leaseweb.com|94.75.223.121|:80… connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response… 200 OK
Length: 10000000000 (9.3G) [application/octet-stream]
Saving to: `10000mb.bin.3′
17% [=====> ] 1,711,194,376 82.3M/s eta 5m 55s
Is the bandwidth Rate :S
How Do I check fdatasync?? :/
Do this:
Damn, 7.5 GB you are trashing the disk. Also, doing a Ctrl-C will not show accurate results I guess. Is better to put a parameter count.
I guess Its A nightmare :|
[root@data dev]# dd if=/dev/zero of=test bs=64k count=16k conv=fdatasync
16384+0 records in
16384+0 records out
1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB) copied, 0.399837 seconds, 2.7 GB/s
Yeah It is a nightmare ! :| WtF ?
[root@data dev]# dd if=/dev/zero of=test bs=64k count=50k conv=fdatasync
51200+0 records in
51200+0 records out
3355443200 bytes (3.4 GB) copied, 1.21856 seconds, 2.8 GB/s
This is the weirdest result that I have seen…
Is like a RAID 10 with 10 SSDs xDDD
Well if this is what you’re getting out of your Super VPS, then GFY.
’nuff said.
you’re in /dev/, that’s why.
/dev/ is a memory based filesystem so that’s cheating.
Do the test in /root/ and NOT /tmp or anything like that since it’ll likely be a tmpfs mount.
Francisco
Good catch :P
CHEATER…
hi i wish to know how it goes this vps?better than w2?
Not perfect, but much better than w2 IMHO
I have a free AOL cd that’s better than W2, you aren’t really giving a great example :)
Francisco
wow strange service, i can’t buy now….
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Greetings to all,
People who have something on your own server try some sort of archive file through the RAR, I have problems, RAR uses only one (1) core and a very slow, very .. What to do? How to fix it? What should be done that would have used the RAR full capacity? This all limits the hoster?
LOL, surely nothing to do with the vps itself.
I guess, if you have used RAR and it has worked with multiprocessing, then verify what version of rar are you using…
RAR latest version, 4.01 activated.
RAR uses only one (1) core and a very slow. Who knows how to fix it?
It has nothing to do with rar, it’s oversold disk (I/O) and CPU that is making it slow.
Read this post and maybe you’ll understand what crap you just bought ;)
my super vps was down, anyone?
over a week my vps was down and very slow respond for support ticket.
10TB of bandwidth and 250GB HDD?
Challenge accepted.
I have one vps from them in Germany…I have opened few dicket about vePortal problem, and every time i get answer we will fix this. Now i have pay for secound month, and i can’t access to my panel. Can’t reinstall system, can’t do any thing here…Some things are strange more here…From time to time, ftp, httpd and other services just turn off, and i don’t know why…I have try to start them via ssh but nothing, so i wan’t to try to restart vps but i can’t coz panel don’t work…
So support here is = 0
Price are good
vps realy don’t work good coz you will have a lot problems like:
ssh go down by himself
ftp and httpd go down himself
you can’t start them from ssh coz it’s down
you can’t restart nod coz you can’t access to panel
So think few time before you buy from here
I never had problems with them
My server is working fine, also control panel is always working for me
And think about this little:
This is a notification that your service has now been suspended. The details of this suspension are below:
Product/Service: Huge
Domain: beta.ultra-host.info
Amount: $6.99 USD
Due Date: 07/07/2011
Suspension Reason: Overdue on Payment
Please contact us as soon as possible to get your service reactivated.
IPAP CO. Webhosting
And here you can see this:
This is a payment receipt for Invoice 768 sent on 02/07/2011
Huge – beta.ultra-host.info (07/07/2011 – 06/08/2011)
OS Template: Debian 6 32 Bit
IP: 46.4.109.171 $6.99 USD
——————————————————
Sub Total: $6.99 USD
Credit: $0.00 USD
Total: $6.99 USD
Amount: $6.99 USD
Transaction #: 29H53696ML755345J
Total Paid: $6.99 USD
Remaining Balance: $0.00 USD
Status: Paid
So think more then few time …
I think that is bug in WHCMS.
I wanna sell my super vps monster for $30 anyone??
umm..err.. the official price is $24.99, even with official price I doubt anyone want to buy it.. :P
Out of order u can’t buy directly from ipap
I hope you’re joking
Yeah and I will deface some websites and he will get to the jail xD
then buy my vps, don’t NATO.
LOL, you are expecting people to buy your SuperVPS after you put up this here?
http://www.lowendbox.com/blog/ipap-co-6-99-2gb-openvz-vps-in-germany/#comment-40237
Good luck :)
I just cancelled mine, they did my cancellation properly as far as I can tell, and I think you should do the same….
just blame ppl who said can defaced website
op3l seems bad guy
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1067492
i currently purchased small vps
only running a test site , had issues with there cent os install
wouldnt install what i needed,i refferred to the ubuntu as i know
and all worked fine, i tried a test desktop enviroment install and took hours to untar the files,but all worked well at the end,then i reinstalled and added plesk all went fine
filled in a couple support tickets all where answered within a few hours or within the hour.
setup time around 12 hours less.
so far so good and hope it stays the same .
i mea gig ram for under a fiver is a bargain
even though i know places now doing $1 64mb-128mb node tested them also was ok
hoping ipap dont let me down
control panel works fine no issues
Now they say, out of stock. When you have stock again?
900+ comments in just these two threads and folks still want to buy from them.
*sigh*
Alas people hope that the last 8 scams are over and they’ll be lucky this time around. The same thing happened with a lot of the $15/y providers.
Sigh :(
Francisco
I have good experience with this company and I think that I use company also next billing period.
Considering folks are saying that they’re down currently and have been for a while, makes me wonder what’s going on.
Of course no one here is offering any proof what so ever that they even have a VPS with them so it’s all moot.
Yup, 96 pixels “GIVE SOME F’ING PROOF” right by the comment form….
After 3 months of this company I moved on to a Dedi and left them in the dark.
I never got my 4GB Upgrade and just recently my Nitros Server just randomly dropped to 3GB.
Note this – my server started off with Windows 2008 R2 in CitrixXen Server and had 4GB of RAM.
I got a response from them saying that because of Citrix that Windows Server 2008 R2 can only go up to 3GB.
Doesn’t make any sense, it was 4GB until for no reason in June it decided to drop 3GB.
Also the AMD cores vary every time you restart, sometimes you’ll have the full 2.20Ghz Core or just have 1.98Ghz one restart. You can tell they are using complete logical cores instead of physical.
I had a good 3 months on the server though but seriously, a 10-20 day delivery service is ridiculous. My dedi only took 3 *business* days and they were really busy (no setup fee week).
ipap really needs to end their services and focus on making it better, because their ticket system is pointless if all they do is close your ticket. Might as well be Volumedrive’s email support.
My Nitros Server was alive for over 40 days without payment after. That’s great for me but really bad for them.
I also have no charts for bandwidth usage and logs, you have to install those yourself and go from there. That’s just terrible as well.
It ran our game server great, but after 11 players, the CPU (logicals, mind you) were choked.
Their support is non-existent until GMT +1 after 7am. I never got answers until that time frame. Half the time, they would just tell me to call them at 4 in the morning my time. For a delivery on a VDS.
TL;DR
Servers are really good, I/O is great, RAM is decent (DDR3-1333Mhz), but processors are weak AMD logical cores.
Wanting an upgrade? Good luck. “Citrix” will prevent you from going over 4GB (or 3) on your Nitros Server because Windows Server 2008 R2 64-bit doesn’t support it. (Right.)
Want support? Go somewhere else. Hard to understand, and sometimes not even there.
Uptime? Good, at the end where we switched over to a dedi the uptime was starting to sway, we would begin to have upload issues and eventually RDP would just drop. This downtime would take about 15 minutes.
…Glad I moved on.
It’s still working for me. I’m actually even thinking about paying for the next month too (even if I’m not really happy with it, it’s still better than it used to be). But I need a VPS in Germany, and you can’t get 250GB disk, virtually unlimited bandwidth and 4GB RAM (including burst) for $7. Not even close.
Anyway, as I said, it’s not down (at least for me). Actually, I don’t think it has ever been completely down, only sloooow.
Well, I got a “SuperVPS Huge” today. Delivery was instantly.
The feeling: very fast, but there are some “freezes” for seconds while working. Disk and network performance are adequate to the price, as described above.
Customer service is also very fast: “TUN/TAP is buggy in current OpenVZ kernel we will enable this when new OpenVZ kernel comes UP!”. And the ticket got closed instantly. No further questions were answered.
So I will not ask for ntp. That may be buggy, too. And now there is little to expect on usability.
Well, its just another toy. Don’t expect anything serious here. Live with it, or your follow up customer will soon replace you.
I was unaware of tun tap being buggy in the current openvz kernel.
good, just report super vps perfomance here
My nitrosserver was delivered in 4 Days and it work till now really nice i got in germany 4x980x cores
im still happy so far too basic vps, downtime once due to switch issue and cheaper and more ram and hd than my previous host
Well this is my second month hosted on ipap, i must say the service is great, i made some upgrades to cpu and ram and everything is ok.
I can’t say anything about their support as i rarely open tickets.
Good Service
after 2 weeks my nitro vps wasn’t delivered..i asked a refund, but they said there is no refund..
After 2 months of using, they suspended my vps, citing it has high load, even so I have only webmin and Apache installed (nothing else, not even PHP/LAMP) and used no more than 10% of the allocated resources
They no longer reply to any of my tickets. Scammer? Yes, they are.
First the 1MB/s cap, now this, time to hit them on Paypal.
so is the cap always enforced? or did you actually use 10T?
Francisco
Cap was enforced, I didn’t even use 1TB to begin with.
Tickets exchange back and forth but eventually, they refuse to fix it, I wasted 25$, cancel it. Funny, they even ask me on how to fix it because they don’t know about OpenVZ/VePortal (it was on VePortal)
I was naive enough to order another (SolusVM), this time I use 6TB (out of 30TB allowed, the largest package) before they kick me off again after 2 weeks, citing the bullshit highload, they never answer any ticket.
Not surprised at all.
OVH/Kimsufi dedicated may not have the greatest network to the USA, but I’m glad I switched over.
Shame on ipap. They had good intentions and they have had chances and help that would better their company.
But that’s all they ever did with me when I was a client. Answer tickets as in “We are on it!” then never hear from them ever. It was just bad.
Then they go telling me that Windows 2008 R2 x64 Standard doesn’t support more then 3GB on my 4GB Nitros Mini. Here’s the thing: it DID have 4GB then after a restart went to 3GB RAM.
Oh, and my Nitros Mini apparently is still online, unpaid for over 2 months. Hilarious. I’m not even touching it anymore.
Earlier up I mentioned that hetzner & OVH enforce speed caps based on BW usage, I guess I was right :P
The fact the 10Mbit cap went in sounds like they got hit by hetzner, nothing more.
Francisco
so you was running seedbox on it checkmate>?
also i think the bw is the total of the server and not just your account
i was thinking about super so start of a little seedbox but ill leave it now lol
Nope, I don’t run an sort of seedbox (I just serve static file via Apache and that’s it)
I’ve heard they will suspend if you intend to use it as seedbox.
Hi,
please do not buy this service. I have it since 2 mounths.
5 minutes to execute : apt-get update && upgrade.
Its very slow. Very bad services.
5 Minutes ? That was fast.. mine took quite over 30 minutes to complete.
very not recommanded they super vps, pathetic service then.
This is a major scam, I’m contacting Paypal to get back whatever possible. I suggest that you do the same and bail out now.
Hi,
plese do not buy this service.
Very slow operation on SuperVPS. Even taking 3 or 4 seconds to type one letter in SSH LOL!
This is not a good service for me.
lol they set me up yesterday then shows as active, then the ip dont work my veportal one
then they ask me which ip{i only just bought the service} thes guys aint got a clu 24 hours for support ticket to be answered , i cant even tell you about the vps as i dont have it yet quick enough to add new stock not quick enough or clever enough on support losers
update for me had same issues as above-except the slow apt-get issue
firstly took them 24 hours to sort out support ticket{but give them there dues they had just restocked so busy time with setups i guess.}
secondly yes you do get some poor answers on support tickets then closed
lastly speeds where great 40meg download test file and 30meg up
great price for a good product i think
i got 3 vps
2 suspend because high load LOL!
1 never delivered
DO NOT BUY FROM THEM!
got a SuperVPS, was ok for 24h, now nothing at all.
its down all the way.
i got 3 also, two work fine,my third i can never reach the veportal panel , so once node goes down i cant reboot or gain acces lol it just hangs to death
Be careful whit this company! Ofter a few day with testing I can say my opinion: very low vps – unusuable for websites like joomla..
ok here it is final straw
1st support sucks egg friggin , not worth having support
2nd they suspended my super vps due to {abuse lol} saying im using 80% of the cpu
i say bollox more like 8% and only 900mb ram used, i ask why its down they say can you be more clear
how clear can you get
3: its a SCAM they are making money by closing accounts reason abuse, this is how they can afford so much ram and hd space and in reality you wont get it so the service is pretty much useles
4: there super vps nodes may aswell be webhosting as ive ran more from a webhosting company with no abuse at all, stating the fact there scammers so please be aware
5: FINALLY I CAN SAY STAY THE FRIG AWAY FROM IPAP THE WORST HOSTING COMPANY IVE EVER HAD BAD BUSINESS WITH AND WONT BE AGAIN
i know this would happen after all the stuff that gets mentioned in here, so i thought i would test it out for my self
SO PLEASE ADMIN IPAP WHAT MORE CAN YOU SAY YOU SCAM ARTISTS
IT TOOK ME A MONTH TO FIND OUT THE REAL IPAP AND ITS UGLY TRUTH,
LAST OF ALL MY MOTHER TOLD ME IF ITS TO GOOD TO BE TRUE THEN IT PROBABLY IS
AND IN THIS CASE IT SURE FRIGGIN IS
YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOUR SELF CALLING IT A COMPANY STAY CLEAR
Same here – final straw with this shower of muppets
I had a SuperVPS and reseller hosting with them.
The support SUCKS !!!!!! Takes them ages (24hrs + in many cases) to get a *single* reply to you, and at that its vague and skirts around the issue. Stupid shit like “hold tight….were working on it” or “I’ll get back to you with a full update”.Then your ticket is automatically closed. At that rate, it can take up to a week to get any sense out of them. After a week of skirting around a simple issue with their reseller hosting (no rDNS on their mail server) I hurled a little abuse their way, highlighting the fact that the support sucked, after all, I was paying for a service that I couldn’t use. Then they suspended my other service, the VPS, due to ‘insult’
I eventually got an apology for the crap level of support, but the VPS remained dead. Then they have the cheek to invoice me for the next billing cycle.
Stay away from these arseholes.
Seriously, you will go insane when you have to deal with their inane replies, arrogance and complete inability to resolve the simplest of issues.
my tickets been open for 7 days no resolvement, server node still up but cant get into it still no real reason node was closed, then more useless support replies that mean nothing nor can help in anyway
i have a couple left and will be canceling before they try to take the cash no good scoundrels
funny how alot of super vps get suspended good money making scheme to get your cash leave open for a week then close then resell it on.
i bet theres some chimp watching every node al times to to close your service i mean process using 80% of the cpu lol whats cpu do these servers have celerons or atoms in them as not i7 by far
well ipap i dont see any remarks from your side of things with your shoddy place
Just got a reply from them. They shut down my VPS immediately after I ‘insulted’ them. Now they are telling me it was due to high CPU usage. (They won’t show the proof) They are having a laugh.
The VPS was used for testing only, it wasn’t doing anything, CPU was at idle or 0.1% constantly.
Now the IP’s have been provisioned to some other victim.
They haven’t a clue
*cough*
900+ comments in just these two threads and folks still want to buy from them.
*sigh*
Because it’s phenomenal vps haha… :lol:
i also asked for proof of abuse, they said it was one process running 80% after 8 days now my node is restored with threat of closure if this happens again well just to prove a point here my ve portal with cpu usage and highest mine has ever been was -CPU Usage: 0.8%
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i have proof of poor support tickets also and there poor replies and will be on standby for paypal
so please ipap if u cant do this proper then dont do it at all
I get my vps suspended too, they said high cpu usage, but they don’t want give me a proof, when I asked to them.
46.4.241.0/24 block seems down at this time
They answered, Hetzner put whole SuperVPS2 node block due abuse.
Honestly it sounds like they had a full /24 worth of clients on a single box. Hetzners filters are automated and is handled on a per server basis. NordicVPS can chime in on this one since they had an abuse issue at hetzner as well that ended up with them having a node down for a bit.
Francisco
Actually, Nordic did reply at some point:
http://www.lowendbox.com/blog/ipap-co-6-99-2gb-openvz-vps-in-germany/#comment-35691
Francisco
I have asked them for proof of my alleged high CPU usage.
Submitted a ticket with the subject “VPS Suspended – Proof of CPU usage”
They replied “Sorry bt which service you are talking about?!”
In WHMCS the only service on my account is “SuperVPS – Giant”
Seriously, are they for real !?
These guys really suck, first they blocked my VPS of “scam” but actually they refunded the money back to me, server was dead, then it was reactivated and then they banned me because of cpu usage ! only apache was running !
their support sucks ass, its like “well get back to you” then ticket gets closed and never heard again from.
prices : 5/10
support : 0.5/10 (just because they speak their “ENGLISH”)
service : 2/10
i moved to a better host and it looks alright for now.
Got my refund from paypal dispute. IPAP is a place with full of shit.
Yeah, Bought a Dedicated server never got it -.-
Asked for a refund 4 weeks ago, yesterday i finally got it back
Do NOT Trust this company, they suspend Servers without any proof
Glad to here you got your money back from this scammers. LEA should place a not for this turning out to be a complete scam.
I ordered one Centos VDS, they give me windows VDS with the wrong username and password. After changing the OS, the server come with bad performance, bad I/O.
and then the server was down 4 days, support ticket is useless, nothing was resolved, only this “will check it, please hold on” and then no response.
Rating: 2/10. 1 for cheap price. and 1 for support.
DON’T TOUCH THIS COMPANY.
liars, ignorants. stay away from them. time to talk to PayPal about them
Sent an email to Gregorz Dzien about his shitty company.no reply.
IPAP,simply….are cunts
Ya and what can we call the people who thought they could get 2gb guaranteed ram, 250gb of space, 2 ips,
and 10TB of xfer on a gigabit for 6.99 ?
So tempted to give an answer here. I’m going to be good though.
Folks, you blew off nearly a thousand comments telling you that these folks had problems. Stop blaming the company for your own dumb ass actions. (So much for being good.) You’re the ones who believed them and gave them money when others told you that they didn’t have a clue.
And that’s why we love you, Doc :P
Anyone that can do basic math (Contantine need not reply) will know that they were BSing about owning their gear as well. They claimed they were building i7 980X boxes for $1400 when the CPU accounts for over half of that.
Francisco
Don’t go with ipap if you want to sleep…I have huge supervps with them for 3 month now. Only what i got from there is bugged vePortal panel, so only what i can is to login tu vePortal and there nothing more…Can’t reinstall OS, can’t change password, etc…And vps is totaly bugged, ssh always refuse connection, and after vps restart it’s work for 30min, then again refuse connections…I asked them to move me vrom vePortal, to SolusVM, and to give me normal vps, coz right now it’s 3 months how i can’t use my vps…They just, suspend all my ticketsl.
So if you realy want stable vps, go with some other coz this…this is not a company…This is realy sh….
Looks like their website keeps getting bumped around:
http://www.lowendbox.com/wiki/ipap.co
They use CloudFlare.
Everything that I want to write here is sarcasm.
Tux, care to explain?
i just gave up with there super vps was asking for the 50% refund for 10days then they took the funds nearly a week early from the wh system. then they finally refund the 50% for the down time so lets see if they keep to there word next month i will be curently testing what i can get from my spare super with the stuff from my basic vps i bet theres no change with the load lol but tux i defo think you work for them as nothing was mentioned to me when asked, so be a man and say your really support from there or admin lol
they do use cloud hosting meanig it bounces from one server to the next in there cloud to handle there huge load hahaha im sure there using more than 15% cpu usage there self so they suspended there own node hehe
“they do use cloud hosting meanig ”
Cloud computing is just a Sales tactic to add extra cash to the price, Its a shame many fall for this wording.
hey dnt use this company i oredered a vds to his company and paid 155 dollar before 2 months but still not getting my server they are cheaterssss
Again:
HAHAHAHAH Dumb Ass LOL!!!
They lost my data! But I have older backup elsewhere.
Update:
My Nitro VDS is still working since no payment of last June. Oh I don’t get any invoices and I did tell them of cancellation, lol.
So who’s really watching their servers? hmm
Use it all you can, why pay when they give it to you for free?
Very true but I’m not putting anything on there important since it could drop anytime, but this goes to show you that if they are watching your systems or not.
Apparently not, if they can let a server go unpaid since May 30, 2011 and continue to let it run they really don’t care of what happens to your servers. I probably could host something against their ToS and still have it run, but I have no use for the server anyway.
Poor ipap. Still letting their services run even when unpaid. Everyone loves free!
That remembers me… VPStree n_n
Me too.
I’m having a free VPS since June XDDDDDDDDDDDD
so many idiots here…
as we all find out in the end conclusion
i had 2 super vps node veportal and blew chunk always down cant reach ve portal
so i decided to get one of the new batch with open tech and same issues to be honest my
normal cheap vps works 10 times better ,dont host shit on these node not worth it , i got my downtime readded after days of lame emails and more lame support tickets same replys from above mentioned and can you make sentances small please i mean wtf
out come me closed the nodes you suckas can have them who wanna try them and good luck
support: 1/10
vps node: 6/10
super vps node: -2/10
price :10/10 BUT TAKE ALOOK ABOVE BEFORE PURCHASING
seedbox usage: 5/10
if u get away with it always better to skip hash check to save cp overload
speeds had from super 40mb down but downt expect all the time
upload 8mb-12mb and dont expect that all the time you get capped to death
Very Very Bad.
they have recently changed there name lol
also support times are alot better and setup time good
super vps have been restricted to now 100mb instead of there 1000mb speeds funny i had a super on 1000mb now the fuckers changed name and changed all uplink speeds to 100mb with no notice to customers
feeling the ripped of but still runs ok
so beware it is getting better but slowly lol
Their WHMCS license has been suspended!
support is very slow and ver hard to contact. I submit ticket 2 time if no respon.
08/11/2011 04:04
My VPS Online but I can not connect to my VPS.As well thailandsbooking.com,204.45.16.110,WinSCP and PUTTY not connect. Please check my VPS.
08/11/2011 04:15
i reboot it can not connect too.
08/11/2011 09:42
now i reinstall OS it can not connect too. Help me please.
24 hour form my vps can not connect, i want to respond!!.
thanks you
Karn Tippimol.
*sigh*
You may have missed this:
I paid extra for 5 fps on my dedicated and a week later still not sent
i am ratasxy @ gmail.com
What is “fps” Frames per second?
Also, (drmike style). A thousand of comments FLAMING this provider and still buying?
Oh, and why the heck are you putting your mail in public?? Damn…
3 days for support ticket to eb answered wow glad i handed most of everything back to um nothing changes well except the name lol
6 days no support my last 2 nodes down no reply to any ticket or email fucking wste of time
Keep reaching for the sky and some day you will fly.
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stay clear there clearly ripping folks of now my nodes gone no replies in 3 days
no nodes no funds paypal dispute filled so let this be a big warning
already dead pool?
the ticket have no any reply for 2 days
there site dead mate i placed dispute in and the good new i got all my funds back i put into the place lol
eat them apples ipap.co and lydianet bollox
i love paypal i bet he fels the burn this morning haha 5 months worht of payments refunded oh yes
dirty scammers lol
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