Angel P, a customer from 123Systems, forwarded me an email that I presume was sent to their customers. They are bringing back their 192MB OpenVZ server at $15/year! Just use this sign up link to purchase this package. Here is the plan detail:
- 192MB guaranteed/384MB burstable memory
- 10GB storage
- 500GB/month data transfer
- OpenVZ/SolusVM
Servers in Dallas TX with Limestone Network. This also cannot be upgraded/downgraded to other plans but you can select RAM/disk/bandwidth add-ons with once-off fee. Sounds like a great plan and a VPS at that size is more than enough running a few PHP sites (assuming disk IO is sufficient and you do get the memory that you pay for).
What fascinates the most is that 123Systems has changed their website design, AGAIN! We have only featured them early last month with a new design. A month later it’s different again (I think it got changed mid-Feb according to Yomero’s comment). Doing a WHOIS on the domain shows that it’s still Andrew running the show so I am not too sure about the urge of ever-changing designs. The quality did seem to degrade over the last couple of months, base on the comments here at LowEndBox. Someone even nominated them for Dog House award (if there is one). So buy with caution.
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I change the design frequently to give people something new to look at when they view the website, All of the designs are still there and they will be rotated occasionally. It keeps people from getting bored with your day to day website and gives them something fresh to look at. (This is the way I see it)
We have had performance hiccups in both Chicago & Dallas over the past few months but we are still doing our best to maintain a decent performance level, At this time there should not be any (None that have been voiced as of yet).
In regards to the Doghouse comment, I don’t think that’s really fair for them to throw us under the bus like that, Each and every provider is going to have issues even the ones that are so frequently boasted on this blog (I will not name them). The fact that we have been there to resolve the issues and are still here and have no intentions of leaving speaks for itself.
-Andrew
I don’t have a problem with a website being changed as long as it’s recognizable. I;ve hit sites and I don;t have a clue as to if they’re being legit or not.
As long as the website works (And for some, that;s a stretch around here.) we have worse things to worry about. Like what to do when a provider can’t spell “Unlimited”.
To be honest I think it seems unprofessional to not at least keep the main layout and graphics. I can see your point but I think it would be better if you just change the websites background and things like that. Makes the site more interesting without loosing the company identity(actually adding to it). Just a thought.
“It keeps people from getting bored with your day to day website and gives them something fresh to look at.”
A hosting site is not a dating site, I look at my hosting provider’s site only when I on the lookout for a new system, after that I don’t look at them for years. So there is no need to look fresh because to me it will be fresh as I wont be visiting daily.
Hey Andrew…. Why the hell am i being treated like a second class citizen? I pay $20 per month and was thinking of upgrading to your largest server, but last week you went down for “maintenance” . After which, my VPS’s IP changed, its password changed and I am unable to change the password! WTF! I just paid the bill a week before. I was even thinking of recommending you to my friends but i think it would be better for them if i didn’t.
One thing the design seems to me missing is a logo, it looks strange without it :)
I’ve had quite a few people tell me that ;)
One is being worked on though and I’ll get it up there within the week.
-Andrew
Run a contest. Best design that you like gets 12 months free. :)
The word contest is always interesting so could you elaborate on how this would be conducted? Because I not understand what you mean by ‘best design that you like’. Who knows if it’s a decent idea then it might happen. :)
-Andrew
Because I did not understand*
Darn the inability to modify blog comments.
Maybe a post saying that you are open to log ideas, give a weeks time period, let folks submit them, pick the one that you like best.
Leave options that if you don;t like anything you’re free to not award any prize, any color or style requirements that you would like to see, etc.
Doesn’t have to be a hard choice, just use something like this:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2758854/123systems.png
PSD:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2758854/123systems.psd
I have a box with them and the performance is really good. The only trouble that I’ve experienced with them was during the outage. If they could give a better response during that time (instead of ignoring their customer’s ticket), I’m sure everybody is happy. I believe they deserve a second chance and hopefully they perform better now.
VPS with them, has been stable for the last 11 days.
Let’s hope the badluck-days are over.
I would like to see it after this promo campaign
the node was rebooting constantly..
so .. I chose to quit..
Anyone knows how are they going recently?
They are still happily rebooting the node I’m on from time to time. And, I won’t be renewing it once the term ends.
me too… give up when term ends, I don’t know for what I would use my 4 vps’s at them
Do this package support PPTP? and if can provide IPv6 address?
Hurricane Electric has a PoP in Dallas.
Use TUN/TAP and tb-tun to enable IPv6.
You have to request tunneling and they appear to not offer IPv6. At least that’s how it was in December:
http://www.lowendbox.com/blog/123systems-18-95year-256mb-openvz-vps/#comment-17610
Just a heads up, they appear to no longer offer refunds:
http://www.lowendbox.com/blog/123systems-21-60year-256mb-openvz-vps-2/#comment-20887
We didn’t stop offering refunds, We stopped offering a money back guarantee. Refunds are still there if you ask for them and have a valid reason, But you will not be refunded under a money back guarantee clause simple because people started abusing it.
-Andrew
How do you abuse a money back guarantee? You time limit it to avoid issues like that, say 7-30 days, you are only out your time, but since you paid nothing to acquire the client here, you still are ahead.
People bought it, Waited 7 days asked for a refund then bought it again with the money that was refunded, This happened several times so we just removed it. Time limiting a money back guarantee provides no protection against someone abusing the money back guarantee itself.
Thanks for the follow up. Pity many providers here don;t follow up with issues are raised.
I was not satisfy with the performance and ask for refund at the second days of purchase, the server is not even up for 36 hour and I didn’t get respond until now.
Do you have an ipv6 support? I want to buy the 15$ per year~~~
ipv6
I’m pleased with my VPS from them. Performace is quite good. Though, the support only seems to answer support tickets they want to answer. I submitted a ticket to get the RDNS changed, and they just closed it. I submitted another one, and it’s been ‘on hold’ for 5 days.
I’m seeing this is Chicago Related, We haven’t had access to our LEAP account with singlehop in over a month so we haven’t been able to do much with rDNS requests for the Chicago location. Calling to rectify the situation doesn’t help either. We are still waiting to hear back from the numerous emails that were sent.
-Andrew
Ah okay.
I would like to see 123systems add Ubuntu 10.10 templates, and Debian 6. There is no excuse not to have at least Ubuntu 10.10, even Hostrail has them.
LOL LEA, I am Angel P xD
Ha. Thanks for the tip.
Hmm btw, yes, that email was sent to me as a costumer :P
And my experience… since the last problems months ago, everything is working fine. I am considering this offer too, but I have a lot of VPS’s now xD this is addictive u_u.
Make a budget (nothing more) and keep to it! :p
Hmmm, then, I must buy it? :P or not :D
If you already have a VPS at a LimeStone based company, why get another? :)
Yes, I have 3 in limestone xD
If it was not in limestone networks I would get one. (I have 7 VPSs in limestone already)
Do you have an ipv6 support? I want to buy the 15$ per year~~~
and what about the tun/tap support???????????
is there anyone help me? thank you
Yes, IPv6 can be requested by submitting a ticket. They will probably enable tun/tap if you ask them to. If I’m right, it isn’t enabled by default.
See what they replyed me~~
I really need ipv6 support~
At this time no IPV6 is on hold.
———————–
Warm Regards,
Gary S
Management Team (Billing/Sales/Technical)
123Systems Solutions™
Every node isn’t IPV6 ready and we have hundreds of people requesting IPV6 so we put it on hold until we can schedule reboots to ensure IPV6 is working properly on all nodes before we issue IPV6 addresses.
-Andrew
em somehow can you tell me when?
I really wanted to buy your VPS now and i really need ipv6 as well~~
Money back guarantee basically act almost similar to trial VPS, the purpose is actually for user to test the VPS performance and decide whether the VPS suit their need or satisfaction. You claim that 123systems didn’t stop offering refunds only if buyer is not abusing along with a valid reason.
I order a VPS on 12-March and I request for refunds on 13-March due to the VPS performance really doesn’t suit my need. Unfortunately, it has been more than 30 hour since I request for refunds via email (andrewm@123systems.net) but no respond is given. If the case is keep on being postpone, then on the date around 17~18-March 123systems could claim that I’m just an abuser and refuse to refunds.
I highly recommended buyer to think twice before purchase.
I wish Andrew would give a respond regards his statement which are quote above with my case.
I hope LED-Admin would provide his feedback to help me.
Hmmm, first I saw of this.
Randy, did you get your refund?
Normally one has to go through the sales ticket system. Sending an email to a specific employee is usually frowned upon.
i do want to buy it, but coudnt register a user on the site
so how can i reboot my vps? and how to reset my password if i lost my password?
Good deal, but on the website front, I think it’s best if you stick with one design. The constantly changing designs in my mind makes the business look like it is trying to disguise or re-invent itself. Doesn’t inspire confidence.
finally, i do bought an vps from them, the ping speed is lower than burst here from my location, so its worth to try it
can you give me a test ip？ Iwant to try~ping
Here is 123system:
and here is my burst.net vps
i am in china, so dont superise i can accept so much delay
here is mine
ping from my own PC
ping from my VPS of hostrail
(Maybe the are in the same house~~~~)
Yes, both are in the same datacenter (limestone)
can the 128MB dedicated RAM be 128 Burstable while addon more RAM? Frankly, we all know for OVZ, only total burstable RAM matters.
Well, I submitted a similar question and they said me something like…
If you have 192/384 adding 128 it will be 320/384 (But in my case was for the 256/512 plan, and adding 256MB it gets 512/512)
If some staff member can confirm this.
Hi Yomero,
Your calculations are correct.
-Andrew
Andrew, can you lead me to a testfile?
Is tun/tap enabled by default?
Can we use it as a VPN? What happens if I go over 500gb?
Andrew is offering $10/year VPS now in Dallas.
https://123systems.net/billing/cart.php?a=add&pid=149
I do smell here a real real big overselling. A limestone server is +$150/m, that’s min. 180 vps per node. The SolusVM license is even $10/m (12 clients), so how many vps do you want to setup on one node? 200? 250?
Yes =P
But that offer is permanent they say, that’s good
Here is the spec:
$10/year could barely pay for the static IPv4 address I think. Now on top of that add a tiny piece of server resource + support. Unless they have a very good strategy to turn loss-leading customers to profitable products, something is just not right.
Well, the way I see it you have 3 choices:
1. Buy it;
2. Don’t buy it;
3. Ask them if you can buy it at a higher price.
But speculating about a company’s business model and pricing scheme without inside knowledge is rather pointless.
Hehe obviously we won’t have the inside knowledge — some might even be trade secrets, involving fairy dusts and magic ponies. All I did was just think-out-loud to get the discussion going, and hoping someone can make some educated guesses on how such low price can be achieved.
I think they previously had servers in Fremont with Frantech
Maybe the got a share of BuyVM IP pool?
Or maybe it a maneuver to jam up the customer numbers and sell it off to Rus/ThrustVPS?
But its all just speculations :) :)
they keep offering their products, i am wondering, do they always adding new nodes or their cancellation rate is high so that they need to fill up the empty space…
it seems their cancellation rate is high
Well these yearly plans are a great way to fight a high cancellation rate, aren’t they?
I wonder how many of those folks actually use such a box for the full 12 months though. Seems like we have a large percentage of abusers who get tossed after a while.
Where is that cancellation rate issue? :|
I have two boxes with 123Systems:
#1 is a “regular” plan in Chicago: 256MB RAM, 10GB disk with another 20GB added for a one-time fee. In short, it’s been superb. Fast, great disk performance, excellent uptime. It’s everything I could expect for a budget VPS.
#2 is an $18.95/year package (256MB RAM, 10GB disk) originally provisioned in Florida and now moved to Dallas. Initially it was fine; not up to #1 quality but pretty good. Following the move to Dallas though, it suffered. High IOWait and bad performance. But in the last two weeks it’s looking much better. Performance and IOWait is greatly improved and it’s generally much more stable. For the price I pay I’m happy with it — it’s a good test platform, e.g. upgrade Debian 5 to 6.
Overall I thing 123Systems is a good company. They went through a rough patch when they shutdown their Florida operation and moved everyone into Dallas, but they worked on it and stabilized things. That’s what a good company does.
I agree, last 2 weeks its good again.
But there is still a dent in my confidence (don’t know of this expression is also used in English :p).
can’t even yum, anybody know what to do?
[root@s ~]# yum update Loaded plugins: fastestmirror Determining fastest mirrors Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/yum", line 29, in ? yummain.user_main(sys.argv[1:], exit_code=True) File "/usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py", line 309, in user_main errcode = main(args) File "/usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py", line 178, in main result, resultmsgs = base.doCommands() File "/usr/share/yum-cli/cli.py", line 345, in doCommands self._getTs(needTsRemove) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/yum/depsolve.py", line 101, in _getTs self._getTsInfo(remove_only) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/yum/depsolve.py", line 112, in _getTsInfo pkgSack = self.pkgSack File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/yum/__init__.py", line 661, in pkgSack = property(fget=lambda self: self._getSacks(), File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/yum/__init__.py", line 501, in _getSacks self.repos.populateSack(which=repos) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/yum/repos.py", line 232, in populateSack self.doSetup() File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/yum/repos.py", line 79, in doSetup self.ayum.plugins.run('postreposetup') File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/yum/plugins.py", line 179, in run func(conduitcls(self, self.base, conf, **kwargs)) File "/usr/lib/yum-plugins/fastestmirror.py", line 181, in postreposetup_hook all_urls = FastestMirror(all_urls).get_mirrorlist() File "/usr/lib/yum-plugins/fastestmirror.py", line 333, in get_mirrorlist self._poll_mirrors() File "/usr/lib/yum-plugins/fastestmirror.py", line 376, in _poll_mirrors pollThread.start() File "/usr/lib/python2.4/threading.py", line 416, in start _start_new_thread(self.__bootstrap, ()) thread.error: can't start new threadYum loves to use memory; you probably hit a memory limit. Disable the fastmirror plugin and maybe stop your biggest memory-using services before doing “yum update”.
Check your /proc/user_beancounters to see what resource is failing. On OpenVZ you can’t start a new native thread because you either (1) hit the numproc limit so no new process can be created, or (2) hit the privvmpages limit so stack can be allocated for the new thread.
Either way, yum is overbloated comparing to apt.
solved. thanks.
Addons
The following addons are available for this product. Choose the addons you wish to order below.
1024MB Dedicated RAM – ($65.00 USD One Time)
20 GB Disk Space – ($15.00 USD One Time)
128MB Dedicated RAM – ($5.95 USD One Time)
256MB Dedicated RAM – ($12.95 USD One Time)
512MB Dedicated RAM – ($27.95 USD One Time)
–
10$/ year vps + HUGE dedicated RAM with one time payment as addon?
I went through order process and it’s really one time payment. There something isn’t right…
Those add-ons are available for all VPSs offered by 123Systems.
Even if you add a gig of memory to the $10/year deal, it’s still going to have limited CPU (on one core), 5GB storage and less-than-stellar IO. I suppose it would make sense if you have an app that uses a lot of memory but doesn’t require much CPU or disk….
But “one time payment”? Yea, right! :)
I’m not sure what you mean… you don’t believe it? I’ve never bought a ram upgrade but I did buy a $15 one-time, 20 GB disk upgrade. Paid the money, upgrade was done within an hour. That was back in September. It’s still there :)
It’s not that I don’t believe you. It’s rather that I wondering where this lead to…
Well, given that $65 today will buy you not just one, but four GB of a physical DDR3 stick, I can see how one time upgrade fee can be achieved. They can proverbially go out and buy the physical ram “on your behalf”, then the part of it you bought is assigned to you for long as you use the service.
time ls
real 0m29.071s
user 0m0.001s
sys 0m0.004s
top reporting about 80-99% wait, with nothing running.
major io problems, but i guess what do you expect for 15/year. pretty much unusable though
Probably all the new $10 accounts running ‘dd’, unixbench and the like :)
Give it a couple days and it’ll probably settle down.
Hmmm I feel really good about 123systems, and remember reading about its services before on WHT, many were happy with it, and is big enough business (no worry of 1 man temporary work,scam etc) + sleddog have done a great marketing here too by his review! If I was 123systems I would blindly offer him some upgrade +++ a free 4 life service :p Hmm I might give it a try but does anyone knows about numproc, privmpages, also do they increase numproc if I add additional RAM? Because otherwise I don’t think adding RAM will differ, I’m already suffering with one VPS provider. Thanks all!
Version: 2.5 uid resource held maxheld barrier limit failcnt 2229: kmemsize 2492991 3623080 2147483646 2147483646 0 lockedpages 0 0 999999 999999 0 privvmpages 16119 19319 98304 98304 0 shmpages 643 1299 49152 49152 0 dummy 0 0 0 0 0 numproc 20 35 999999 999999 0 physpages 13062 13182 0 2147483647 0 vmguarpages 0 0 49152 2147483647 0 oomguarpages 13062 13182 49152 2147483647 0 numtcpsock 7 20 7999992 7999992 0 numflock 1 7 999999 999999 0 numpty 1 3 500000 500000 0 numsiginfo 0 5 999999 999999 0 tcpsndbuf 122528 936464 214748160 396774400 0 tcprcvbuf 114688 806552 214748160 396774400 0 othersockbuf 10104 68336 214748160 396774400 0 dgramrcvbuf 0 16944 214748160 396774400 0 numothersock 16 21 7999992 7999992 0 dcachesize 0 0 2147483646 2147483646 0 numfile 460 790 23999976 23999976 0 dummy 0 0 0 0 0 dummy 0 0 0 0 0 dummy 0 0 0 0 0 numiptent 20 20 999999 999999 0I think really great, thanks man. I’m using Firefox luckily, but your post damaged LEB hehehe..
Holy crap, I f***ed up the blog :|
Something like “overflow:scroll” for the pre tag should fix it — note to LEA :)
Well I didn’t set out to promote 123Systems — just tellin’ it like it is :)
Every company will experience problems of some sort, it’s inevitable. When a company does a good job of recovering and stabilizing then I think it should be noted. I get the feeling that there’s some solid technical expertise at 123Systems.
I’m interested to take this offer… how long the promotion lasts?
Forever.
I don’t believe it has a expire according to it’s WHT post, and I know they also just released a $10/year promotion also that they said will be listed as one of there plans (not just a promotion package).
It is still available, as I tried the link to test it and it’s still currently working, has anyone got one of these and can provide feed back if it’s worth it?
-Shane
Is tun/tap enabled by default?
Can we use it as a VPN? What happens if I go over 500gb?
Hello!
123Systems VPS is very slow and always slow!! I cannot even get 10 MB/s on disk I O test. Support is rude and 24 hours no response.
Can anyone suggest alternatives in Dallas US??
~Mario.
New stock has been released https://123systems.net/billing/cart.php?gid=19
New stock available(12 as i saw) and I grabbed 1.
first you need to install nano
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nano install
wget http://www.nano-editor.org/dist/v2.2/RPMS/nano-2.2.6-1.i386.rpm
rpm -i nano-2.2.6-1.i386.rpm
nano /etc/yum/pluginconf.d/fastestmirror.conf
changed enabled=1 to enabled=0 and save it, Yum will work properly after that.
and save it
yum install update
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Lowcost but this a bulls*it vps…
if unfortunately you have a DDos attack your server is nullrouted for 24 hours…
Iptables modules are disabled… so you can’t secure your self
and support is very very slow… you can get your vps after 1 week if you make a new command… 1 to 2 days to get a response if you ask the support… for 5 tickets >> 0 resolved…
pannel disabled for a time 0 exploit… a big bullsh*t hoster ! as custumer am very disappointed.