Black Friday keeps going today with an awesome special offer from VirMach! Known for being a reputable leader in the low-end market, VirMach has been posted for many years on Low End Box! VirMach is a registered company in the United States, ID 3512454410, their WHOIS is public, and you can find their ToS/Legal Docs here.
PayPal, Credit/Debit, BitCoin, and AliPay are all accepted methods of payment.
Some freebies this year are: Free DDoS Protection (20Gbps burst to 50Gbps) in New York, Free Weekly Backups, Free 2x1Gbps on some packages, Free webhosting for existing customers
In their own words:
“VirMach has been providing superb services for almost 5 years now, with continued improvements. Today we will focus on some of our fairly newer product lines, such as hard drive storage packages and shared hosting. We launched our storage servers, using RAID 10 HDDs and a 10Gbps port. We have also boosted our protection in Buffalo, NY. Customers continue to receive 20Gbps DDoS protection but we will stand in front attacks up to 50Gbps (for a shorter period of time.) On top of the protection, our new servers in Buffalo now run on larger 3GHz processors.”
Flash Deals (various clearance sales): https://virmach.com/
Other Special Offers: https://virmach.com/
35% OFF – SSD512 to SSD32G Packages
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Dedicated Server
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We have some additional time-sensitive offers. These come with a lower level of support, and they are “KVM Lite” packages meaning there are some limitations, such as no Windows operating system, or custom ISO amounts available. These are very limited in quantity and for Black Friday 2019 only. |
KVM SPECIAL 512
| KVM SPECIAL-2
| KVM SPECIAL 4
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Check out more offers after the break!
ColoCrossing – Buffalo, New York, US
Test IPv4: 107.173.176.5
Test file: http://ny.lg.virmach.
Looking glass: http://ny.lg.virmach.
ColoCrossing – Dallas, Texas, US
Test IPv4: 23.95.41.200
Test file: http://dal.lg.virmach.
Looking glass: http://dal.lg.virmach.
ColoCrossing – Los Angeles, California, US
Test IPv4: 23.94.228.141
Test file: http://la.lg.virmach.
Looking glass: http://la.lg.virmach.
ColoCrossing – Atlanta, Georgia, US
Test IPv4: 107.172.25.131
Test file: http://atl.lg.virmach.
Looking glass: http://atl.lg.virmach.
ColoCrossing – San Jose, California, US
Test IPv4: 107.172.96.135
Test file: http://sj.lg.virmach.
Looking glass: http://sj.lg.virmach.
Voxility – Los Angeles, California, US (DDoS Protection)
Test IPv4: 45.43.7.8
Test file: http://filtered-la.lg.
Looking glass: http://filtered-la.lg.
ColoCrossing – Piscataway, New Jersey, US (NYC)
Test IPv4: 107.174.64.68
Test file: http://nj.lg.virmach.
Looking glass: http://nj.lg.virmach.
Host Node:
– 2x Intel Xeon E5-2620/2660/2690/2687(v1-4) CPU
– 128GB to 256GB RAM (DDR3 & DDR4)
– 4x 1TB SSDs to 8x 2TB SSDs (HW RAID 10)
– 2x1Gbps/10Gbps uplink, 50Gbps protection in NY
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I have two BF specials from last year and currently hunting for others. They were incredibly reliable, fast and overall good services.
For under 15$ / year each, the services was hands down the best I had so far, even compared to the more expensive “premium” providers.
How annoying. There was a Flash deal for $8.97/yr. Had it in my cart. Edited cart to see if I could set a location. When done, it was removed from cart and gone. Incredibly aggravating. And with the AUP, maybe it’d be easier if they outlined what IS actually allowed. I was thinking of trying to code a small aggregater for stuff like tablet deals, and scraping’s against policy. How do these guys have such a good rep with this bait and switch and draconian terms?
From LET: “Flash Deals: This will consist of manually scheduled & automatically generated deals by our system. The default timers are 4 minutes for each offer and 3 minute grace period for anyone who clicked the button to complete their order. This may be increased or decreased. Please try to stay calm & orderly when completing your order or you may be rate-limited.”
Regarding the AUP, I’ve read it 5 times and it only prohibits abuse under any form. I’m quite certain you can use scrapping as long as you do not use all of the allocated CPU or hammer the network constantly.
Dude, we are talking about a ~1$ per month server. You can barely get shared hosting at this price and you expect a fully dedicated server with no restrictions? If you want that kind of freedom of use, add two zeros to your budget!
Yup, I wonder the same thing. I think it might be employees who keep rating them as good. They’re crap, incompetent little bitches who do not want to deal with customers but want their money.
If you had such a bad experience that you’re inclined to use that name, I’d like to review what happened if you give us a chance. May I have your e-mail, user ID, or any other information with us? You can e-mail it to us privately if you prefer.
Our reviews are genuine. We have plenty of bad ones as well, you can go through them and read the 1 star reviews if you prefer.
I tried your services, and you’re just incompetent! Your favorite line is “you want support for $2/month?” when faced with your service not actually functioning according to your own TOS. You came up with the pricing, you complain about it not being worth it? Incompetent little bitches who want the money but don’t want any responsibility.
I’d be happy to look over this and provide a response if you do provide any kind of identifying information so I can see all the details.
Regarding the flash deals, they’re definitely not for everyone which is why we also have the other normal deals. They’re limited quantity and move within a few minutes. You will ultimately end up pulling a few hairs, but there’s also some excitement in return. It sounds like it was sold out by the time you were attempting to edit the cart. On another note: you cannot modify the location, each deal is exactly what’s stated on the page.
Our terms of service are not meant to be restrictive. We think it’s better than being vague. Sure, we could just state “any activity that negatively affects other customers is prohibited” but we try to list specific scenarios where that may occur. For example, scraping could cause a massive load on the server if it’s not done correctly. If you contact us beforehand, we can definitely speak with you and figure out if an exception can be made, and in most cases if you do scraping correctly and within the realm of the fair share of your service, we won’t even notice. We’ve never suspended someone just for scraping. It’s more like if we catch them abusing in various different ways and it’s as a result of scraping, we can then just tell the customer it’s not allowed versus having a vague explanation that makes it sound like we’re just trying to bother the customer.
@VirMach Hi, thanks for the response! It was a real bummer with the deal because I was certain I had it in my cart and wanted to check out. I did get another deal and I’m curious if you all will be addressing the double charges? Seems a lot of people got hit with a double, at least paying with Paypal…
Thanks for clearing up the terms of service. It really seems very restrictive, but I have no idea what I’m doing, and this is my first KVM, mostly to learn and have an easy to play with Linux system. I’m not super computer literate but I’m working on it. Is there a list somewhere of what you are allowed to do? Like, can you run your own web server and put up a webpage? Can you install stuff like node and play with it? If these are super stupid questions, I apologize. Also, I’m sorry for the tone of my first post; I was pretty frustrated to see that deal just evaporate from my cart! ;(
For the double charges on PayPal, we have everything in place to avoid that on our end, as well as PayPal’s API option enabled to reject duplicate payments but they don’t seem to honor that. Our “official” policy on this is that our system catches the duplicate charge and auto-credits you, since this is the easiest way to deal with it automatically, and it’s counted as a non-refundable deposit. However, we do almost always refund these double charges if you just contact us.
Going back to terms of service discussions, you are basically fine doing anything that’s not illegal and is a good for fit your package. So you can do what you described, but as an example of what you shouldn’t do, you shouldn’t for example play around with something that’s going to be maxing out the CPU all the time.
I have had them for several years and they’re still overall good. Maybe it’s these deals doing it but my server has been out and I have been with support for over an hour already and all they asked was the ip and still have not heard back.
It’s best to create a technical support ticket, provide as much information as possible, and request that it be flagged to high priority queue. We do have a button for reporting outages, and that always goes to the priority queue. What you’re describing is most likely unrelated to the deals and instead related to our OpenVZ to KVM conversions. That’s just my guess; it could be something completely different.
This is just what I expect from Black Friday deals. Thank you.
Glad you like them!
For “Black Friday” specials, is it usual to see “Virtual server not found” messages under the IP due to the overloading?
Yes, and we are fixing them. Your service should still be accessible and you can still access the control panel directly to manage it. The link is just broken between our billing panel and VPS control panel.
I spent >$100 buying a few flash BF deals before I read their AUP, and now I regret that. The AUP is really upsetting, there are too much restrictions, especially CPU or disk IO usage can not be certain threshold over something like 10 minutes, and from other’s reviews they are really shutting down VPS because of this.
I understand there are oversells over there; what I am surprised is they make users the ones responsible for maintaining server performance, which means their technicals are weak, and leads to very bad user experience, as I need to constantly worry if I exceeds the limit. I don’t plan to do anything weird, but I don’t like to worry about these things. A far better approach would be maintaining fair use of resource at hypervisor level. If it happens I am the only one who use a lot CPU, then I should be able to continuously using that; if other people start competing the CPU, I would be throttled, but still get my fair share; people with low CPU usage should have higher priority to maintain low response time, etc. The same applies to other resources such as the network or disk IO.
Overall speaking, their BF deals looks cheap but buy them only if you can bear with the headaches, and can live in fears of getting terminated.
Oops, it seems I replied to the wrong post. Moderator please delete it and I’ll repost it.
This company was the worst experiency I had in TI last year.
I did buy a VPS to backup my things and they did shutdown my system EVERYDAY saying rsync are overloading the node.
I only use the system 25 minutes a day.
I dont recomend at all.
It sounds like you were syncing a lot of data in a short period of time, which you might think is good to “only use the system 25 minutes a day” but it’s best if you can stretch out any large operation as much as possible. For rsync of many files especially, you should be using the correct flags to stay within your CPU limit. Otherwise you may go 10-30x above your limit.
We do allow some extreme bursts for maybe 5 or 10 minutes, and we understand these may occur from time to time.
If you can provide your user ID or e-mail with us I can take a look and see if we can make things right.
2 days pass. The Client area > Manage Product still show “Virtual server not found”
But I can install OS in Management > Control panel,
And Surprise! without Ubuntu 18.04 to choose.
Seriously !? ;-(
Ubuntu 18.04 has an ISO at this time. The “Virtual server not found” issue should have been fixed.
Is IPv6 coming and if not is there any ETAs? Thank you.
dude, none of your black friday ads ever load and allow payment. I tried 5 of them. Either the cart shows zero or I get a website offline site from cloudflare. what a waste of my time.
Tried to order a BF flash deal a few times, I never succeed. I can’t login as I’m not an existing customer, and I don’t see where I can create an account.
I bought 2 of their flash deals (around $8 each, there are $6 and even $1 ones but I missed), the uplink speed is terrible. Luckily I only use it for fun so I am not complaining.
for everyone who missed them don’t frustrate at all, they are cheap for a reason – you can’t do anything serious on them anyway. (Expensive ones might be better but I don’t know)
Yup, agreed: “you can’t do anything serious on them anyway.”
If you are checking uplink speed using Speedtest/Fast or other websites like that you need to make sure they’re geolocating the IP correctly as otherwise they will connect you to a test server that is farther away. In addition, they’re usually not capable of correctly testing the speed if you cannot verify any inconsistencies on the test server’s end as well.
It’s best to test speed using something like iPerf (or use it for what you need and if it doesn’t work well, contact us.)
Here’s a speed test in Los Angeles, for our most highly network-utilized server.
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[ 6] 0.0-10.0 sec 751 MBytes 630 Mbits/sec
[ 9] 0.0-10.0 sec 805 MBytes 675 Mbits/sec
[ 4] 0.0-10.0 sec 606 MBytes 507 Mbits/sec
[ 5] 0.0-10.0 sec 514 MBytes 431 Mbits/sec
[ 3] 0.0-10.0 sec 334 MBytes 280 Mbits/sec
[ 11] 0.0-10.1 sec 366 MBytes 306 Mbits/sec
[ 7] 0.0-10.0 sec 518 MBytes 432 Mbits/sec
[ 8] 0.0-10.1 sec 368 MBytes 307 Mbits/sec
[ 12] 0.0-10.0 sec 840 MBytes 701 Mbits/sec
[ 10] 0.0-10.2 sec 422 MBytes 346 Mbits/sec
[SUM] 0.0-10.2 sec 5.39 GBytes 4.53 Gbits/sec
Anything out of the ordinary, contact us and it can get sorted.
I spent >$100 buying a few flash BF deals from them before I read their AUP, and now I regret that. The AUP is really upsetting, there are too much restrictions, especially CPU or disk IO usage can not be above certain threshold over something like 10 minutes, and from other’s reviews they are really shutting down VPS because of this.
I understand there are oversells over there; what I am surprised is they make users the ones responsible for maintaining server performance, which means their technicals are weak, and leads to very bad user experience, as I need to constantly worry if I exceeds the limit. I don’t plan to do anything weird, but I don’t like to worry about these things. A far better approach would be maintaining fair use of resource at hypervisor level. If it happens I am the only one who use a lot CPU, then I should be able to continuously using that; if other people start competing the CPU, I would be throttled, but still get my fair share; people with low CPU usage should have higher priority to maintain low response time, etc. The same applies to other resources such as the network or disk IO.
Overall speaking, their BF deals looks cheap but buy them only if you can bear with the headaches, and can live in fears of getting terminated.
Hi Aaron, I understand your concern. We can’t share specifics numbers with you as we don’t want abusers taking advantage of our exact algorithms hen it comes to enforcement of our policies, but I can tell you that in most cases it’s nowhere close to what’s stated in our terms of service. We just need to state that as the worst case scenario. It does not mean we elect to enforce it harshly. This only happens if you are using a lot of resources while a node is also overloading immediately as a result of the abuse, and usually it has to be much worse.
Let me give you an example. If a node is already at a comfortable level and full/locked off, and then you abruptly begin a software installation/change in setup that locks up because your service does not have enough resources, and it’s detected by our system (usually means it’s been going on for at least 10 minutes) and then a system administrator locates you as being the source of the problem, he may immediately shut down the service after verifying it for another 10 minutes or so.
Since August 25th, 2017, approximately 2% of services have been affected by a shutdown, and the majority of those (>87%) first received a warning.
Chances are if you are concerned about our AUP, and actually read it, you are not our target demographic for abusers. Those are the people that did not read the AUP or specifically purchase the service to abuse it.
To continue addressing your concerns, I see you mentioned overselling, and weak specifications. We don’t intend to make customers maintain server performance; we just have a higher standard to make sure the servers are always in top shape for everyone. We do maintain the servers and have monitoring tools to ensure we never over-fill them, and on the rare occasion that we do we always offer a migration to a less congested node. Disk is never oversold on KVM virtualization; we do not utilize thin LVM or other tactics to oversell disk. This usually ends up being the bottleneck on most servers: we run out of disk space first. On average, memory is actually undersold on our servers. Our node “average” is probably around 5TB of usable disk space and about 220GB RAM. That’s about a 1GB RAM to 20GB disk ratio, but our SSD1G (1GB) plan comes with 25GB-35GB base disk depending on the operating system and goes all the way up to 50GB. Processing power does end up being “oversold” but not in the sense that it negatively affects users. However, you should not expect to be able to max out CPU 24×7 without the dedicated CPU option.
Your idea regarding throttling works great in theory but it has negative implications in the real world. We have done testing with throttling and in most cases it’s not good enough for us to feel comfortable with utilizing it.
Their service is real crap, I bought new vps and it couldn’t connected via ssh, so created a ticket but initial reply came after 12 hours
And still no reply, thinking of terminating and moving to another provider
Giving these guys a shot, so far one order was placed and the server was setup and the other order was rejected. Waiting to see on how they respond to my ticket on this. The one server up seems solid, but time will tell. Will provide a more in-dept update soon.
I didn’t run a bench on my instance before. I had only done the wget on the speedtest link.
Arch : x86_64 (64 Bit)
Kernel : 4.19.0-14-amd64
TCP CC : cubic
Virtualization : KVM
Organization : AS36352 ColoCrossing
Location : New Fairview / US
Region : Texas
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I/O Speed(1st run) : 61.0 MB/s
I/O Speed(2nd run) : 61.4 MB/s
I/O Speed(3rd run) : 102 MB/s
Average I/O speed : 74.8 MB/s
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Node Name Upload Speed Download Speed Latency
Speedtest.net 472.78 Mbps 495.56 Mbps 172.19 ms
Beijing CU 505.64 Mbps 510.86 Mbps 175.48 ms
Shanghai CT 353.75 Mbps 536.61 Mbps 172.40 ms
Shanghai CU 1100.15 Mbps 638.22 Mbps 177.51 ms
Guangzhou CT 460.63 Mbps 268.05 Mbps 190.32 ms
Guangzhou CU 441.49 Mbps 517.91 Mbps 213.47 ms
Shenzhen CU 400.04 Mbps 655.23 Mbps 209.67 ms
Hongkong CN 760.12 Mbps 876.17 Mbps 186.16 ms
Singapore SG 421.68 Mbps 489.51 Mbps 213.07 ms
Tokyo JP 12.55 Mbps 10.30 Mbps 118.97 ms
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Compared to a bench run on another KVM on another provider:
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I/O Speed(1st run) : 1.0 GB/s
I/O Speed(2nd run) : 1.0 GB/s
I/O Speed(3rd run) : 1.0 GB/s
Average I/O speed : 1024.0 MB/s
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Node Name Upload Speed Download Speed Latency
Speedtest.net 658.10 Mbps 149.89 Mbps 9.67 ms
Beijing CU 131.23 Mbps 157.64 Mbps 326.83 ms
Shanghai CT 140.71 Mbps 309.28 Mbps 211.09 ms
Shanghai CU 155.96 Mbps 295.65 Mbps 250.69 ms
Guangzhou CT 149.91 Mbps 362.56 Mbps 217.36 ms
Guangzhou CU 154.75 Mbps 305.72 Mbps 273.03 ms
Shenzhen CU 230.99 Mbps 288.40 Mbps 177.98 ms
Hongkong CN 351.65 Mbps 207.63 Mbps 221.28 ms
Singapore SG 239.00 Mbps 279.67 Mbps 295.44 ms
Tokyo JP 136.97 Mbps 12.89 Mbps 257.25 ms
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Both claim to be SSD hosts, but that’s a significant difference in SSD throughput. I/O on Virmach SSD looks more like magnetic disk throughput.
Virmach either has some silly metering algo running or “overly motivated” admins who randomly shut down clients servers, without any warning, notice or announcement sent to client (yes, notices are visible in their ‘support area’ but never sent out by email! Are we supposed to check their UI like hourly?!)
They also do not provide any usable details about what they think happened and triggered a suspension.
Well at 10 bux/year, what level of professional service should one expect :(
VirMach is an OpenVZ-based VPS and KVM-enabled hosting company based in New York. They offer affordable VPS hosting, as well as KVM hosting options across the United States.